Ajmal vs Swann - Page 3

Xuhaib · 24-10-2011, 04:52 AM

Ajmal is not even Pakistan's best long format bowler.Personally feel Kaneria and Rehman should be ahead of him for test match selection.

smalishah84 · 24-10-2011, 05:40 AM

weren't you the one who were espousing Ajmal's cause when Rehman was initially picked ahead of him for the NZ tour????

Prince EWS · 24-10-2011, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by smalishah84

weren't you the one who were espousing Ajmal's cause when Rehman was initially picked ahead of him for the NZ tour????

I think that was me.

I thought Ajmal was under-rated for quite some time, but after a couple of decent series the opposite was suddenly true. Fans be fickle, yo.

Prince EWS · 24-10-2011, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cevno

If the rules say he can bend the arm till 15 degrees and he is using 14.5 of them, then fair game for me no matter how bad it may look on TV.

The Seamers get away in that regard easier.

So what you're saying is, technology > people watching on TV?

Agent Nationaux · 24-10-2011, 05:47 AM

Xuhaib is just a moaner.

smalishah84 · 24-10-2011, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

I think that was me.

I thought Ajmal was under-rated for quite some time, but after a couple of decent series the opposite was suddenly true. Fans be fickle, yo.

Loser

Xuhaib · 24-10-2011, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux

Xuhaib is just a moaner.

so if I rate Rehman and Kaneria over Ajmal how does that make me a moaner?

Prince EWS · 24-10-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Xuhaib

so if I rate Rehman and Kaneria over Ajmal how does that make me a moaner?

Rehman would probably be a better fit in a team with a gun pace attack as he just keeps the pressure on so relentlessly but Pakistan need their spinner to be a real strike option at the moment so Ajmal fits much better, and I think he's a better bowler overall anyway.

The fact that Ajmal is being seriously compared to Rehman does sum up how silly the Swann comparisons are though.

ljinko888 · 24-10-2011, 06:27 AM

Swann imo is a lot more of a wicket taking threat than Ajmal, certainly in the longer formats of the game. Ajmal is a tricky spinner yes, but I don't think he impacts the game as much as Swann does

ganeshran · 24-10-2011, 06:34 AM

Swann's test will come next year against Pakistan on flat tracks and against India in the test series.

ljinko888 · 24-10-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ganeshran

Swann's test will come next year against Pakistan on flat tracks and against India in the test series.

This will the ultimate test. Selectors should look to give him a spin partner too. And I mean proper, out and out spinner. Not Samit Patel, a batsman who bowls sometimes.

GingerFurball · 24-10-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ljinko888

This will the ultimate test. Selectors should look to give him a spin partner too. And I mean proper, out and out spinner. Not Samit Patel, a batsman who bowls sometimes.

No they shouldn't.

marc71178 · 24-10-2011, 06:43 AM

I do love how every time an English bowler beats the "ultimate Test for him", another new "ultimate Test" springs up.

Spark · 24-10-2011, 06:44 AM

It always amuses me when someone trots out the "play the second spinner just 'cos it's the subcontinent" argument.

Even more so when the cost of doing so is dropping one of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan. Seriously, no.

Prince EWS · 24-10-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark

It always amuses me when someone trots out the "play the second spinner just 'cos it's the subcontinent" argument.

Even more so when the cost of doing so is dropping one of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan. Seriously, no.

Yeah, we have a Test team with a pace attack good enough to leave Chris ****ing Tremlett out, and people want to add a spinner to it. Another spinner in for one of the quicks just isn't a realistic option for England at all.

I'd think about Patel (or Blackwell

) in for Morgan (or to remove my bias, I'll even pretend Morgan is James Taylor) if the pitch was going to be really unresponsive to fast bowling, but while England's 7-11 are probably all good enough to go up a place I still don't think bringing in Panesar for a batsman would really improve the team in any conditions. The batting is a bigger chance of having an off day and getting rolled than *that* bowling attack is of collectively bowling pies for an innings IMO, even on a pitch that looks flat at the toss.

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Xuhaib Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Karachi Posts: 9,394	Ajmal is not even Pakistan's best long format bowler.Personally feel Kaneria and Rehman should be ahead of him for test match selection.

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Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,286	Xuhaib is just a moaner.

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ljinko888 Cricket Spectator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: London Posts: 40	Swann imo is a lot more of a wicket taking threat than Ajmal, certainly in the longer formats of the game. Ajmal is a tricky spinner yes, but I don't think he impacts the game as much as Swann does

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