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Old 24-10-2011, 04:52 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Ajmal is not even Pakistan's best long format bowler.Personally feel Kaneria and Rehman should be ahead of him for test match selection.
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Old 24-10-2011, 05:40 AM   #32 (permalink)
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weren't you the one who were espousing Ajmal's cause when Rehman was initially picked ahead of him for the NZ tour????
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Old 24-10-2011, 05:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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weren't you the one who were espousing Ajmal's cause when Rehman was initially picked ahead of him for the NZ tour????
I think that was me.

I thought Ajmal was under-rated for quite some time, but after a couple of decent series the opposite was suddenly true. Fans be fickle, yo.
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Old 24-10-2011, 05:46 AM   #34 (permalink)
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If the rules say he can bend the arm till 15 degrees and he is using 14.5 of them, then fair game for me no matter how bad it may look on TV.

The Seamers get away in that regard easier.
So what you're saying is, technology > people watching on TV?
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Old 24-10-2011, 05:47 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Xuhaib is just a moaner.
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Old 24-10-2011, 05:48 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I think that was me.

I thought Ajmal was under-rated for quite some time, but after a couple of decent series the opposite was suddenly true. Fans be fickle, yo.
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:17 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Xuhaib is just a moaner.
so if I rate Rehman and Kaneria over Ajmal how does that make me a moaner?
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:24 AM   #38 (permalink)
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so if I rate Rehman and Kaneria over Ajmal how does that make me a moaner?
Rehman would probably be a better fit in a team with a gun pace attack as he just keeps the pressure on so relentlessly but Pakistan need their spinner to be a real strike option at the moment so Ajmal fits much better, and I think he's a better bowler overall anyway.

The fact that Ajmal is being seriously compared to Rehman does sum up how silly the Swann comparisons are though.

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Old 24-10-2011, 06:27 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Swann imo is a lot more of a wicket taking threat than Ajmal, certainly in the longer formats of the game. Ajmal is a tricky spinner yes, but I don't think he impacts the game as much as Swann does
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:34 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Swann's test will come next year against Pakistan on flat tracks and against India in the test series.
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Swann's test will come next year against Pakistan on flat tracks and against India in the test series.
This will the ultimate test. Selectors should look to give him a spin partner too. And I mean proper, out and out spinner. Not Samit Patel, a batsman who bowls sometimes.
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:40 AM   #42 (permalink)
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This will the ultimate test. Selectors should look to give him a spin partner too. And I mean proper, out and out spinner. Not Samit Patel, a batsman who bowls sometimes.
No they shouldn't.
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Yup, much more likely. In any case, I will back [Insert Indian Random Batting Order] against Swann in India every day. If they win, it won't be on Swann's back - though he could be valuable to keep things tight and maybe a wicket or two.
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:43 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I do love how every time an English bowler beats the "ultimate Test for him", another new "ultimate Test" springs up.
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Old 24-10-2011, 06:44 AM   #44 (permalink)
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It always amuses me when someone trots out the "play the second spinner just 'cos it's the subcontinent" argument.

Even more so when the cost of doing so is dropping one of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan. Seriously, no.
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It always amuses me when someone trots out the "play the second spinner just 'cos it's the subcontinent" argument.

Even more so when the cost of doing so is dropping one of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan. Seriously, no.
Yeah, we have a Test team with a pace attack good enough to leave Chris ****ing Tremlett out, and people want to add a spinner to it. Another spinner in for one of the quicks just isn't a realistic option for England at all.

I'd think about Patel (or Blackwell ) in for Morgan (or to remove my bias, I'll even pretend Morgan is James Taylor) if the pitch was going to be really unresponsive to fast bowling, but while England's 7-11 are probably all good enough to go up a place I still don't think bringing in Panesar for a batsman would really improve the team in any conditions. The batting is a bigger chance of having an off day and getting rolled than *that* bowling attack is of collectively bowling pies for an innings IMO, even on a pitch that looks flat at the toss.
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