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    The difference between bowling and chucking.

    I was just watching Saeed Ajmal bowling in the recently concluded Test between Pakistan and Zimbabwe and to my eyes it looked like he was chucking 'em. Not so long ago Johan Botha another man with a suspect action had his doosra banned because he exceeded the 15 angle or something...well what I want to know is, when can we start saying a bowler is chucking? If there's anybody who knows the laws of bowling please explain to me because I'm really puzzled...

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    I can understand it that it's a no no if a fast bowler chucks the ball (increased speed), but what is wrong with a spinner doing it? The batsmen have plenty of time to react to spinners chucking. What advantage does a spinner get by chucking the ball?

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    No offence, but this "why can't a spinner chuck it" argument gives me the ****s.

    It spins more, that's why. And if you can spin it more by chucking it then that's an unfair advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    No offence, but this "why can't a spinner chuck it" argument gives me the ****s.

    It spins more, that's why. And if you can spin it more by chucking it then that's an unfair advantage.
    Quite so.

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    Sub continental players can chuck it, other guys can't.

    Get used to it and find a bowling action that you're allowed and is effective in internationals.
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    Ajmal isn't a great spinner of the ball though. He is good thanks to his doosra and variations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggins View Post
    Sub continental players can chuck it, other guys can't.

    Get used to it and find a bowling action that you're allowed and is effective in internationals.
    Even McGrath used to chuck if judged under the old laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Ajmal isn't a great spinner of the ball though. He is good thanks to his doosra and variations.
    Filthy chucker tho; lack of spin notwithstanding.

    If his doosra isn't a throw, I've never seen one, etc.

    He's not the only one, obvz. Botha goes without saying, but Ashwin & Beer's quicker ball also utilise more elbow than I'd like to see too.

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    all of the new spinners are chucking it.

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    Its not all that surprising, if I was an international finger spinner I'd chuck for all I was worth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    all of the new spinners are chucking it.
    Nah. No issues with Lyon, Ojha, Herath or Randiv at all.

    Of the bowlers one suspects it's usually the change-up delivery, be it wrong 'un or arm ball, that's the problem.

    Botha & Ajmal the exceptions inasmuch as every ball they send down looks a chuck.

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    Another major advantage spinners get by chucking is far superior accuracy. For me at least it's so much easier to land the ball where I want to if I "bend the rules" a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Even McGrath used to chuck if judged under the old laws.
    Not if you were using the law of bloody common sense:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Ajmal isn't a great spinner of the ball though. He is good thanks to his doosra and variations.
    And if he's chucking any of them then he's gaining an unfair advantage he wouldn't otherwise have.

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