FICA Poll Results

[salman85]

ICC news: BCCI too powerful, players believe | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

Worth a read.

Also,we can shed some light on the this comment :

Posted by indiracmc on (June 02 2011, 07:39 AM GMT)
PROBABLY other countries are rather jealous and insecure of the success of IPL . THAT made them to draw such conclusion. AND as far as the best interest of the cricket is concern one should keep in mind that ONLY THOSE THING SURVIVE WHICH ARE ECONOMICALY VIABLE. IF people think that best interest of the cricket is to play test cricket for whopping 5 days (which may or may not yield result) then it is sorry to say cricket may not even find players to survive. BECAUSE every player has family to look after. Best example is soccer tennis vs other long version of the game. Hence best interest of the cricket in my opinion is to made CRICKET MORE POPULAR+PALATABLE+WEALTHY. ONLY THEN THE POOL OF REAL CRICKETER WILL DEVELOP. And as far as the test cricket is concern confine it to cricket academy where player should learn cricket and make them worthy to play 20-20 in front of whole world. AND IT IS THE DESTINY OF THE WORLD THOSE WHO HAVE MORE BUCKS RULE THE ROOST. BEST ex IS USA. SO WHY NOT BCCI

 

[vic_orthdox]

Have really enjoyed the latest season of soccer tennis, TBF.

 

[salman85]

I'm not too sure.I think the Roger Del Piero's ace penalty over the weekend was rather crass.The other side was winning 14-0 with 10 seconds to go and that move ruined it all for them.

 

[four_or_six]

I thought the 'spot fixing bans too lenient' was an interesting result.

None of the 45 players surveyed believed the penalties were too harsh, while 23% considered the bans "fair". 77% of respondents believed the penalties handed to the Pakistan trio were too lenient.

Also good to see that the vast majority (82%) want DRS (I know, no Indian players are in the survey), as well as qualifiers for the world cup (91% in favour).

 

[Cevno]

All these results have to be viewed bearing in Mind that India and Pakistan ,Zimbabwe and Bangladesh IIRC are not members of FICA.
Particularly India and Pakistan considering the two headline results are about them.

 

[salman85]

I wasn't aware of that.

Why are they not members btw?

 

[four_or_six]

I wasn't aware of that.

Why are they not members btw?

Silly stuff like this, as far as I know...

FICA chief May sour over BCCI boycott

 

[silentstriker]

BCCI doesn't recognize unions at all for any reason.

 

[silentstriker]

They won't even respond to FICA queries - such as player security. They only deal with players individually and their boards.

 

[Cevno]

There was a player union made in India a while back but it didn't become a member of FICA as they did not agree with the view of FICA of the game and were not fully supported by the BCCI. Then as a result it lost momentum and is almost defunct at the moment.

The reasoning of BCCI of now allowing player unions is silly.
FICA and them have been at loggerheads since ever though. FICA leaves no oppurtunity to do things against BCCI also and keeps criticising them for pedantic issues. Infact, the FICA president also went to the extent of unequiovacally supporting the ICL and then even attending ICL matches personally.
BCCI at the same time leaves no oppurtunity to do the same.

All of it is a bit silly and stupid from both sides, but it is no surprise that BCCI is shown with such results again in a FICA poll.

Not sure about the other 3 countries and their issues.

 

[Cevno]

They won't even respond to FICA queries - such as player security. They only deal with players individually and their boards.

FICA wanted IPL 3 to be shifted out of India again due to security issues they found in a report they independently commisioned despite board of countries finding no problem with security at the time and touring India normally.
Also FICA find no oppurtunity to come out and bash the BCCI and particularly the IPL on pedantic issues such as player payments being delayed by a week and food items etc..

But at the same time they found no such problems or security problems with the ICL until it was in existence. In fact the FICA head even came out and supported it openly ,even attending matches and studios of ICL.

BCCI's functioning and policy in terms of domestic player unions is autocratic and a disgrace ,but it is not as if FICA are Saints either.

 

[superkingdave]

How is players not being paid ontime a pedantic issue?

 

[Cevno]

How is players not being paid ontime a pedantic issue?

It was just a week,tbh.

And it was because a couple of franchisees did not get foreign exchange permissions on time from the government etc....

Pretty sure even the ICC on some occasions delayed payments for more than that.

There was another instance of the ACA claiming some players were not paid for weeks,when it was later clarified after the first season that the main 2 players that the payments were being claimed for were never entitled to more than what they had received as per their contracts as they were injured for the initial period.

 

[silentstriker]

FICA wanted IPL 3 to be shifted out of India again due to security issues they found in a report they independently commisioned despite board of countries finding no problem with security at the time and touring India normally.
Also FICA find no oppurtunity to come out and bash the BCCI and particularly the IPL on pedantic issues such as player payments being delayed by a week and food items etc..

But at the same time they found no such problems or security problems with the ICL until it was in existence. In fact the FICA head even came out and supported it openly ,even attending matches and studios of ICL.

BCCI's functioning and policy in terms of domestic player unions is autocratic and a disgrace ,but it is not as if FICA are Saints either.

Don't really care who was right and who wasn't - I was simply pointing out that they don't recognize any unions.

And ftr, FICA was right.

 

[Shri]

Don't really care who was right and who wasn't - I was simply pointing out that they don't recognize any unions.

And ftr, FICA was right.

Nah FICA are a bunch of **** ****s.

 

[Cevno]

@Silentstriker-
FICA was right in what?
Wanting the IPL shifted out again?

Yeah the BCCI does not recognise player unions which is a absolute disgrace.Do not disagree with that.
Not talking about FICA here(couldn't care less about them) but not recognising really any Indian domestic players union is bad.
Though they did meet with a union that was formed about a decade ago but never fully recognised it

 

[four_or_six]

The main thing is that FICA is recognised by the ICC, which means the players views are represented on some of the ICC committees. It's a shame Indian and Pakistani players aren't included, as I think that would make the players voice stronger.

 

[superkingdave]

It was just a week,tbh.

And it was because a couple of franchisees did not get foreign exchange permissions on time from the government etc....

Pretty sure even the ICC on some occasions delayed payments for more than that.

There was another instance of the ACA claiming some players were not paid for weeks,when it was later clarified after the first season that the main 2 players that the payments were being claimed for were never entitled to more than what they had received as per their contracts as they were injured for the initial period.

Central Districts players still haven't been paid the champions league prize money after 8 months.

Regardless, whether the delay is a day or a year, its surely the players unions responsibility to raise the issue.

 

[Furball]

It was just a week,tbh.

And it was because a couple of franchisees did not get foreign exchange permissions on time from the government etc....

Pretty sure even the ICC on some occasions delayed payments for more than that.

There was another instance of the ACA claiming some players were not paid for weeks,when it was later clarified after the first season that the main 2 players that the payments were being claimed for were never entitled to more than what they had received as per their contracts as they were injured for the initial period.

So you'd be fine if I was your employer and just paid you whenever I felt like it?

 

[Sanz]

So you'd be fine if I was your employer and just paid you whenever I felt like it?

Haha, so right. I would be upset If I didn't see my money in my bank on the payday.