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    The lucky bowlers, and the luckless ones

    Apologies if this has been brought up before, but I thought this can help increase the proof behind an often used luck argument for bowlers in international cricket.

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    It's not really statistically viable as a means of quantifying luck. But the article's good fun nonetheless.
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    I'd like to know they defined "rapped on the pads" particularly after seeing Giles top the list of the unluckiest bowlers.
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    Don't understand how you bowl less balls that can potentially take a wicket than balls that actually do take a wicket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Don't understand how you bowl less balls that can potentially take a wicket than balls that actually do take a wicket.
    Hayward's ratio certainly had me bemused too. To be perfectly honest, and although the Numbers Game often produces some very good analysis, I can't really buy into this set of statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Don't understand how you bowl less balls that can potentially take a wicket than balls that actually do take a wicket.
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    Hayward's ratio certainly had me bemused too. To be perfectly honest, and although the Numbers Game often produces some very good analysis, I can't really buy into this set of statistics.
    Obviously he's had a fair few wickets caught off the middle of the bat.

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    A wrongly given wicket by the umpire maybe?
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    sometimes the argument that a bowler being unlucky is a very filmsy argument put forward by crap bowler supporters.Sami fans are often using this to support their argument.Both Aamer and Asif have had quite a lot of drops of their bowling in the last 12 months yet they are still able to create enough chances to keep their averages low.If you are a good bowler eventually you will get your rewards as long as you are consistent the problem with Sami is he is just not patient enough.

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    How do you know what balls are potential wicket taking ones?

    This whole thing is stupid.

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    All the unlucky bowlers are average at best....

    All the lucky bowlers are very good bowlers....

    Somehow I don't think luck comes into this at all. It's who makes the most chances, because there are always going to be dropped catches in cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I'd like to know they defined "rapped on the pads" particularly after seeing Giles top the list of the unluckiest bowlers.
    Might have just ran a query to find how many times key terms like 'rapped' and 'pads' were used when in relation to his bowling. You can get rapped on the pads a few times per over, but as long as it's pitching a foot outside leg it means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TumTum View Post
    How do you know what balls are potential wicket taking ones?

    This whole thing is stupid.
    They explained that in the article FFS.

    I think people are just getting too fixated on the name they've give to that calculation.

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    Stats since September 2001 hey?

    Maybe Richard is right, cricket did change after September 2001
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