Wisden- How important to Cricket is it?

andmark · 26-05-2010, 11:35 AM

For 100+ years, the whole history of the game of Cricket has been recorded in little yellow books called Wisden Almanacks. These books are a gate way to knowledge and passion in the game of Cricket. (Now with the serious part) Whilst the ICC/MCC have organised most tours, settled matters and created huge tournaments, the authorities have often failed with their duties (e.g the underarm/ incident could have been avoided with a simple change to the laws).

Now I want to ask, do you think think Wisden Almanacks have been a huge role to the game and the backbone of Cricket, or do you think it has an extremely small role?

pasag · 26-05-2010, 11:59 AM

It's more or less irrelevant now with cricinfo taking its place. CI's place in cricket today shouldn't be understated, it's huge.

andmark · 26-05-2010, 12:02 PM

Ah, but I thnk Cricinfo got a lot of it's records via Wisden (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

BoyBrumby · 26-05-2010, 12:03 PM

Aren't Wisden and Cricinfo one and the same tho?

Wisden the Hansard of cricket, IMHO.

pasag · 26-05-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Aren't Wisden and Cricinfo one and the same tho?

Wisden the Hansard of cricket, IMHO.

Nah, they were for a bit but not since ESPN took over.

fredfertang · 26-05-2010, 02:09 PM

Wisden is a unique resource having always been wholly independent of the game's governing bodies, and the views expressed by its editors down the years carry great weight - the Editorial in the 1934 edition dealing with Bodyline was and is a masterpiece of accurate reporting and sound judgment.

Jono · 26-05-2010, 02:12 PM

Interesting thread.

All I know is everyone bitched when ESPN took over Cricinfo from Wisden, but it was the best thing that could happen. The site is amazing now. Incredible.

four_or_six · 26-05-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

Interesting thread.

All I know is everyone bitched when ESPN took over Cricinfo from Wisden, but it was the best thing that could happen. The site is amazing now. Incredible.

Hmmm... Page 2.

Jono · 26-05-2010, 02:42 PM

So what? Some people like Page 2, and if you don't you don't have to read it. I've read that section maybe 3 times in total. But I can see its appeal, and it obviously gets plenty of hits.

Cricinfo.com is now extremely versatile. It appeals to everyone. People looking to read expert opinion, people looking for live scores, people looking for stats, people looking for a laugh and funny blogs. Its all in one spot.

Makes cricket, for once, actually compete with other sports in something.

four_or_six · 26-05-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

So what? Some people like Page 2, and if you don't you don't have to read it. I've read that section maybe 3 times in total. But I can see its appeal, and it obviously gets plenty of hits.

Cricinfo.com is now extremely versatile. It appeals to everyone. People looking to read expert opinion, people looking for live scores, people looking for stats, people looking for a laugh and funny blogs. Its all in one spot.

Makes cricket, for once, actually compete with other sports in something.

Meh, was only messing. Chill.

Cricinfo is the best sporting website I've come across, definitely. Love the stats and the reporting is pretty good, though I think sometimes they actually report too much and there are too many articles on the eve of a match.

It would be nice if you could customise it a bit, but moon on a stick and all that.

Jono · 26-05-2010, 03:29 PM

Haha I do agree that there are almost too many articles, if there was such a thing.

Hard to keep up, but also very useful when bored

four_or_six · 26-05-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

Haha I do agree that there are almost too many articles, if there was such a thing.

Hard to keep up, but also very useful when bored

Yes... but bad for productiveness levels!

SaeedAnwar · 26-05-2010, 06:09 PM

I remember reading Wisden Books about 17-18 years ago when there was no such thing as Internet in Pakistan. Good times, time back then was much simpler, i use to read so many books on different topics back then. Now i dont touch books because most of the stuff is on the net

Burgey · 26-05-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfertang

Wisden is a unique resource having always been wholly independent of the game's governing bodies, and the views expressed by its editors down the years carry great weight - the Editorial in the 1934 edition dealing with Bodyline was and is a masterpiece of accurate reporting and sound judgment.

Is there linkage, per chance?

fredfertang · 27-05-2010, 12:24 AM

There is an archive but sadly the particular piece I had in mind isn't online - still the tour report from 1934 and the editors notes from 1933 are in it

View Poll Results: How important has it been?
It is extremely important. More so than the ICC	5	21.74%
It is important, but less so than the authorities	4	17.39%
Important, but not very	2	8.70%
Not very important, but the game has benefitted from it	7	30.43%
Not important at all. Cricket could have been great without it as well as with	3	13.04%
I agree with Nick.	2	8.70%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,620	Aren't Wisden and Cricinfo one and the same tho? Wisden the Hansard of cricket, IMHO. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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26-05-2010, 12:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
andmark International Debutant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Taking 39 steps Posts: 2,741	Ah, but I thnk Cricinfo got a lot of it's records via Wisden (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

26-05-2010, 02:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,718	Wisden is a unique resource having always been wholly independent of the game's governing bodies, and the views expressed by its editors down the years carry great weight - the Editorial in the 1934 edition dealing with Bodyline was and is a masterpiece of accurate reporting and sound judgment.

26-05-2010, 02:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,477	Interesting thread. All I know is everyone bitched when ESPN took over Cricinfo from Wisden, but it was the best thing that could happen. The site is amazing now. Incredible.

26-05-2010, 02:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,477	So what? Some people like Page 2, and if you don't you don't have to read it. I've read that section maybe 3 times in total. But I can see its appeal, and it obviously gets plenty of hits. Cricinfo.com is now extremely versatile. It appeals to everyone. People looking to read expert opinion, people looking for live scores, people looking for stats, people looking for a laugh and funny blogs. Its all in one spot. Makes cricket, for once, actually compete with other sports in something.

26-05-2010, 03:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,477	Haha I do agree that there are almost too many articles, if there was such a thing. Hard to keep up, but also very useful when bored

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SaeedAnwar U19 Debutant Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In Saeed Anwars bed Posts: 347	I remember reading Wisden Books about 17-18 years ago when there was no such thing as Internet in Pakistan. Good times, time back then was much simpler, i use to read so many books on different topics back then. Now i dont touch books because most of the stuff is on the net

27-05-2010, 12:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,718	There is an archive but sadly the particular piece I had in mind isn't online - still the tour report from 1934 and the editors notes from 1933 are in it

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