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    Perhaps, but I still feel Asif has been much less of a bowler since coming off the drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Opener View Post
    Perhaps, but I still feel Asif has been much less of a bowler since coming off the drugs.
    How?
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    He had his best bowling innings just 2 matches ago in Sydney. Was pretty impressive how he kept nagging away, when it looked as if Sami was going to take all of the spotlight.

    Class bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    How?
    Less pace. He's still impressive, but less so. He has to remain at that high level for another 5-10 tests for me to put him alongside Steyn.

    You guys forget he's still young in his carreer. He might go totally of the boil. Or get caught juicing again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    He had his best bowling innings just 2 matches ago in Sydney. Was pretty impressive how he kept nagging away, when it looked as if Sami was going to take all of the spotlight.

    Class bowler.
    Not to forget the horrendous amount of drops recently, I counted Aamer's and there were 10 in the last 8 matches off his bowling. Pretty sure there were at least 5 off Asifs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Opener View Post
    Less pace. He's still impressive, but less so. He has to remain at that high level for another 5-10 tests for me to put him alongside Steyn.

    You guys forget he's still young in his carreer. He might go totally of the boil. Or get caught juicing again.
    5 would probably confirm his class IMO, Steyn's barely played 5 years himself after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    5 would probably confirm his class IMO, Steyn's barely played 5 years himself after all.
    I don't think he's even played 3 years tbh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowfinger View Post
    I don't think he's even played 3 years tbh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Opener View Post
    Great reasoning there Teja.
    I would have reasoned if we were comparing Hadlee and McGrath.

    I don't need to reason to say Marshall was a better bowler than Thomson much the same way I don't need to reason to say Asif is a better bowler than Anderson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    5 would probably confirm his class IMO, Steyn's barely played 5 years himself after all.
    Steyn got almost 200 wickets already while Asif has less than 100.Steyn has shown that he can perform when conditions do not suit him but so far Asif has not.Asif is better than Steyn when there is something in the pitch but Steyn is better on flat pitches.A simple look at Asif's stats tells us he strruggles on flat pitches.IIRC he averages something like 45 in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra View Post
    Steyn got almost 200 wickets already while Asif has less than 100.Steyn has shown that he can perform when conditions do not suit him but so far Asif has not.Asif is better than Steyn when there is something in the pitch but Steyn is better on flat pitches.A simple look at Asif's stats tells us he strruggles on flat pitches.IIRC he averages something like 45 in Pakistan.
    Asif can't perform when conditions don't suit? What are you talking about? He has played twice in Pakistan.

    Anyway no point in getting too into a career of Asif conversation as he is a twerp and will likely get himself banned or something again. The only thing thats holding him back is himself, unfortunately he appears to be a huge obstacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    I would have reasoned if we were comparing Hadlee and McGrath.

    I don't need to reason to say Marshall was a better bowler than Thomson much the same way I don't need to reason to say Asif is a better bowler than Anderson.
    Asif has less than 100 test wickets, and for part of his career was on steroids. Please don't compare him to Hadlee or McGrath (at least yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Asif can't perform when conditions don't suit? What are you talking about? He has played twice in Pakistan.

    Anyway no point in getting too into a career of Asif conversation as he is a twerp and will likely get himself banned or something again. The only thing thats holding him back is himself, unfortunately he appears to be a huge obstacle.
    I said Asif has not shown us that he can yet....I did not say he cannot.He has not run through a side on a flat pitch like Steyn did against India....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Opener View Post
    Asif has less than 100 test wickets, and for part of his career was on steroids. Please don't compare him to Hadlee or McGrath (at least yet).
    I'm not comparing to them at all. What I was trying to say is,

    Hadlee and McGrath are on the same level as fast bowlers hence reasoning is required to choose one over the other.

    Marshall and Thomson were both ruddy brilliant bowlers but Marshall is clearly better than the other, hence I don't need to reason it out over why he is better.

    Anderson and Asif are both very good bowlers but the latter is clearly better than the former, hence I don't need out reason it out over why he is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra View Post
    I said Asif has not shown us that he can yet....I did not say he cannot.He has not run through a side on a flat pitch like Steyn did against India....
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