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    England Performance Squad

    Cricinfo - Foster and Mahmood get England boost

    Performance squad Tim Ambrose (Warwickshire) + , James Anderson (Lancashire) *, Ian Bell (Warwickshire) *, Ravi Bopara (Essex) + , Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire) *, Paul Collingwood (Durham)*, Alastair Cook (Essex)*, Andrew Flintoff (Lancashire) * , James Foster (Essex), Stephen Harmison (Durham)*, Robert Key (Kent), Amjad Khan (Kent), Dimitri Mascarenhas (Hampshire), Sajid Mahmood (Lancashire), Monty Panesar (Northamptonshire)*, Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire)+, Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire)*, Matthew Prior (Sussex) +, Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Owais Shah (Middlesex) +, Andrew Strauss (Middlesex)*, Ryan Sidebottom (Nottinghamshire)*, Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire) +, Michael Vaughan (Yorkshire)*, Luke Wright (Sussex) +

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    So Mahmood who's a long proven pie-chucker, was awful on the England Lions tour (9 wickets at over 50), is basically not good enough to make Lancashire's first team is in there.

    "Two players who have earned the right to be in the squad are James Foster and Sajid Mahmood. They are pressing for a place in the England squads" - Geoff Miller

    Just unbelievable.


    Meanwhile Mark Davies who ripped NZ A's top order to shreds twice and has insane bowling averages for Durham (ie well below 20 per wicket average in FC for the last 3-4 seasons) is ignored. It's an absolute disgrace, how much longer before Geoff Miller does the honourable thing and resigns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post

    Just unbelievable.
    Here is the problem. It should be unbelievable but unfortunately this is no suprise.

    I have zero respect for the England selectors. It has been bad before but now they dont know who they like and dont even trust their bad judgement. Woeful.
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    Well at least you can’t blame the selectors for having a Southern bias, or can you?

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    Yes.

    Anyway, as Kev says, this isn't exactly terribly surprising. Nor does it make the remotest sense to blame Geoff Miller - almost anyone else who might have got the position would be making the same decisions, as demonstrated by the minimal amount of criticism so many terrible selections by both him and his predecessors have received in The Press.

    The simple truth is England selection has had much wrong with it for as long as I can remember - and probably for a long time before I can remember, as well. I have pretty much never seen an international selector, from any country, who has done a good job.
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    Interesting to see that Tremlett is not included, can't say it is all that surprising given his fitness and form last year but doesn't make a great deal of sense given that he was included in the 20twenty list. Think it would be unfair of England to exlude him considering his perfomance in the test's he has played but it is up to him to prove himself this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Interesting to see that Tremlett is not included, can't say it is all that surprising given his fitness and form last year but doesn't make a great deal of sense given that he was included in the 20twenty list. Think it would be unfair of England to exlude him considering his perfomance in the test's he has played but it is up to him to prove himself this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    It's an absolute disgrace, how much longer before Geoff Miller does the honourable thing and resigns?
    The honourable thing would be harakiri, with Giles Clarke and David Collier standing behind him.

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    Mahmood is one of very few out and out quick bowlers England have at their disposal. Of course an international cricketer requires much more than this, but this winter has proved we need to find some penetration from somewhere.

    With an improvement in accuracy, with no detriment to his pace, Mahmood will be a tricky customer. He needs an electric start to this season to be anywhere near the Ashes squad.

    James Foster deservedly included included in the squad.

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    Mahmood's not even that quick, most of the time he bowls about the same pace as Jimmy Anderson, he just bowls short

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    What's the logic behind central contracts? Why aren't they issued at the start of the home season, e.g. May?

    Bell has a central contract yet has been dumped from the squad; with Shah the incumbent and Bopara/Key prospective alternatives. Why are the ECB picking up his salary if he might not play international cricket this Summer? Or does this mean there's an obligation to return him to the international set up? Ditto Harmison and Sidebottom. And Prior is only on an incremental contract, despite arguably having done enough with the bat at least to secure his place for the Summer. It just seems like a system to reward favourites or those with experience but have underperformed.

    As for the squad, no surprises really. Mahmood's been talked up in the press despite indifferent performances. That the usual suspects are being called up time and again reveals the lack of depth in the county game or the myopia of the selectors. Three wicketkeepers though? Wonder if Foster's being considered for the shorter game where Prior hasn't really convinced.

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    I found it a bit strange that Davies was taken to WI, didn't get a chance but Foster is now ahead of him

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    Trott must have some serious personality and/or hygeine issues. Topped the Loins' (sic) averages in the "tests" & one-dayers versus NZA and still not in the top 25.

    &, surely, if pace is what we're looking for one of Kabir or Jones (S) was the place to look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Mahmood's not even that quick, most of the time he bowls about the same pace as Jimmy Anderson, he just bowls short
    Yeah, its a myth. He isnt slow but he is notch below fast. He is just quick and erratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Yeah, its a myth. He isnt slow but he is notch below fast. He is just quick and erratic.
    Mahmood can be exceptionally sharp, that's no myth. Perhaps not every spell, but when everything's right and his rythmn's good, he'll be around 90 mph.

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