Johnson V Flintoff

Trumpers_Ghost · 04-03-2009, 07:17 PM

In response to the Johnson V Broad batting thread, I though perhaps a more realistic comparrison.

So the Question is:

Which of these two players will have the biggest influence on International Cricket in the next 3 years?

GingerFurball · 04-03-2009, 08:25 PM

Mitch.

I'll be amazed if Flintoff is still playing in all formats in a year.

gwo · 04-03-2009, 10:34 PM

**** misvoted.

Jakester1288 · 04-03-2009, 10:38 PM

Johnson by a long shot currently. However, if Flintoff becomes fully fit again and starts playing his cricket from 2005ish, he could trump Johnson, but both are generally injury prone, so who knows?

Son Of Coco · 04-03-2009, 10:38 PM

I'd go Flintoff if there was a guarantee he'd be fit and in form for the next 3 years...so I picked Johnson. I think Johnson's bowling will get better and he can already hold a bat pretty well.

inbox24 · 04-03-2009, 11:00 PM

I think Flintoff beats Johnson in all departments on paper, whether that will translate to dominance or even consistency on the park, we have no idea.

Son Of Coco · 04-03-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by inbox24

I think Flintoff beats Johnson in all departments on paper, whether that will translate to dominance or even consistency on the park, we have no idea.

I actually like Johnson's batting style moreso than Flintoff's, he plays some shots that look great. Whereas from what I've seen of Flintoff he favours the flat-footed heave a little more. Mind you, it's been a while since I've seen him bat. Both can hit a ball. Flintoff's backswing sometimes looked to me like he had a small terrier in his arms and he was trying to shield it from a Rottweiler. Effective though

I enjoyed watching him bat when he was going well.

Trumpers_Ghost · 04-03-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inbox24

I think Flintoff beats Johnson in all departments on paper, whether that will translate to dominance or even consistency on the park, we have no idea.

not all......I think Johnson is far superior in the field

Burgey · 04-03-2009, 11:09 PM

If Flintoff's fit then imo it's him easily, as he's England's main man.

If he plays as sporadically as he has in recent times, it will likely be Johnson.

Of course the third option is tha tJohnson's workload turns him into Flintoff in terms of injuries. They said on TV t'other day he's bowled on average > 50 overs per test for the past 9 he's played. That's heaps.

Evermind · 04-03-2009, 11:11 PM

Flintoff is OVERRATED.

Johnson FTW.

Evermind · 04-03-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gwo

**** misvoted.

How do people keep "misvoting"? It's not that hard. You just click in the little circle next to the name you like. What can go wrong in that?

JBH001 · 04-03-2009, 11:16 PM

Johnson, Freddie is a bit over the hill I think. Although, that said, injury is always looming for Johnson, imo, considering his workload.

Noble One · 05-03-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JBH001

Johnson, Freddie is a bit over the hill I think. Although, that said, injury is always looming for Johnson, imo, considering his workload.

Considering the injury history of Johnson it is amazing that he has been able to maintain such a bowling workload over the past year. Must be at his physical best right now, terrific for a young man to get his body into such shape after so many early problems.

As for the question, well Johnson on current form. Three years is a long time, many factors may change. Think back three years ago and Flintoff was at the time regarded as one of the great all-rounders of the modern game. Now he is being compared to an emerging fast bowler who has made some half centuries.

gwo · 05-03-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Evermind

How do people keep "misvoting"? It's not that hard. You just click in the little circle next to the name you like. What can go wrong in that?

i click a box. (midge's)

i accidentally press the up key not noticing.

i read a few other tabs i have open.

go back and click submit.

****.

Richard · 05-03-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Mitch.

I'll be amazed if Flintoff is still playing in all formats in a year.

That's the thing.

I can well see Flintoff not playing a particularly massive amount of cricket over the next 3 years TBH. Hope otherwise, obviously, but I think you'd be asking a lot for him to play enough to better what Johnson appears likely to manage to do.

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GingerFurball Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Crabs Subbie Posts: 15,402	Mitch. I'll be amazed if Flintoff is still playing in all formats in a year.

04-03-2009, 10:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
gwo U19 Debutant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 301	**** misvoted.

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Jakester1288 International Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,533	Johnson by a long shot currently. However, if Flintoff becomes fully fit again and starts playing his cricket from 2005ish, he could trump Johnson, but both are generally injury prone, so who knows?

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Evermind International Debutant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,250	Flintoff is OVERRATED. Johnson FTW.

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JBH001 International Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,236	Johnson, Freddie is a bit over the hill I think. Although, that said, injury is always looming for Johnson, imo, considering his workload.

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