View Poll Results: Who is Australia's second best Test cricketer ever?

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  • Warwick Armstrong

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  • Richie Benaud

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  • Allan Border

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  • Greg Chappell

    1 1.64%
  • Alan Davidson

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  • Adam Gilchrist

    4 6.56%
  • Clarrie Grimmet

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  • Archie Jackson

    2 3.28%
  • Dennis Lillee

    1 1.64%
  • Ray Lindwall

    0 0%
  • Glenn McGrath

    12 19.67%
  • Keith Miller

    16 26.23%
  • Monty Noble

    0 0%
  • Bill O'Reilly

    1 1.64%
  • Ricky Ponting

    1 1.64%
  • Victor Trumper

    1 1.64%
  • Doug Walters

    0 0%
  • Shane Warne

    22 36.07%
  • Steve Waugh

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    Considering he was just 21 when he played his last first class match and that he achieved what he did without ever being fully fit I'm going for Archie Jackson - one of the game's saddest stories - David Frith's short biography of him is a masterpiece

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    I don't know why, but although I think Gilchrist was a great player, I've never been quite so amazed by him as I have by some other players.
    Perhaps because the success he achieved in the first half of his Test career was virtually beyond comprehension - similar to Michael Hussey of more recent times.

    And obviously, in the second half of his career he was no more than an average wicketkeeper-batsman who occasionally played some of the most astonishing innings' you'll ever see.

    Ironically, it was in ODIs, his weaker format, that he was probably more notably remarkable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Considering he was just 21 when he played his last first class match and that he achieved what he did without ever being fully fit I'm going for Archie Jackson - one of the game's saddest stories - David Frith's short biography of him is a masterpiece
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Considering he was just 21 when he played his last first class match and that he achieved what he did without ever being fully fit I'm going for Archie Jackson - one of the game's saddest stories - David Frith's short biography of him is a masterpiece
    Hadn't heard of such a book - and I know shamefully little about Archie Jackson - so it looks as though I'm in for a good read when I've been onto Amazon.

    (once I've finished Maurice Tate's book, obviously, Fred).


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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Hadn't heard of such a book - and I know shamefully little about Archie Jackson.
    *pops up collar*

    Quite possibly a rare instance of a CW Book Club stalwart knowing lesser about an oldie than me.

    Now, please don't go ahead and prick my balloon by suggesting you know anything more than the handful of facts I know about said player.

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    McGrath, definitely.
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    Voted Gilchrist because other than Bradman, he'd be the only other guaranteed Australian pick in my all-time world XI.

    Miller is good, but there've been other all-rounders better than him. Gilchrist is easily the best wicket-keeping batsman of all time. Besides, I'm biased towards post-Packer cricketers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Perhaps because the success he achieved in the first half of his Test career was virtually beyond comprehension - similar to Michael Hussey of more recent times.

    And obviously, in the second half of his career he was no more than an average wicketkeeper-batsman who occasionally played some of the most astonishing innings' you'll ever see.

    Ironically, it was in ODIs, his weaker format, that he was probably more notably remarkable.
    Yeah, that's basically it. I think the fact I didn't really follow cricket while I was at uni meant I missed his best years, and I remember the rest more.

    Also just personal preference, always liked McGrath for some reason.

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    This is my first post so be gentle with me !!

    I voted for Shane Warne but seeing Millar with no vote made me wish I'd voted for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by the wrong un View Post
    Hi all

    This is my first post so be gentle with me !!

    I voted for Shane Warne but seeing Millar with no vote made me wish I'd voted for him
    Welcome to the forums. Miller has 5 votes, one less than Warney.
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    No votes for Monty Noble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    Miller is good, but there've been other all-rounders better than him.
    Not from Australia there haven't, and the only all-rounder better than him was a batting-all-rounder rather than a genuine, rounded all-rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBH001 View Post
    No votes for Monty Noble?
    How many people on CW know much about cricketers from before the 1970s, never mind the 1930s? Even I don't know massive amounts about anyone before that famous Bradman's Ashes (except for the events of 1902 and 1905).

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    Bradman.


    I kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Not from Australia there haven't, and the only all-rounder better than him was a batting-all-rounder rather than a genuine, rounded all-rounder.
    I was talking about the world in general, of course. Imran > Miller.

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