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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Personally, I'll never buy into the opinion that Akram was better than Khan.
    Agreed. Akram was arguably the most talented fast bowler of all, but Imran achieved more and was a greater matchwinner. For me, I rate performance > talent most of the time.
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    I don't care if lists which focus on players one has watched wont be counted - as far as I am concerned, asking me to judge/compare people I have never watched play to those I have is ridiculous.

    Therefore,

    1. Muralitharan
    2. Ambrose
    3. Donald
    4. Wasim
    5. Warne
    6. McGrath
    7. Pollock
    8. Bond
    9. Shoaib
    10. Walsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    In all honesty, Warne wasn't even the greatest in his own team, McGrath was.
    Try telling McGrath that...or basically most of the Australian team itself.

    While Warne was being being pillored by Lara, Malik, Pietersen, Tendulkar and the rest of the Indians, McGrath never had any trouble conquering any of them. In terms of consistency, potency, ability to take top order wickets, ability to adapt to all conditions, and ability to knock the best in the business, McGrath was his superior.

    Having said that, Marshall should be number one. By all accounts, he had everything a fast bowler could want, and a pretty much flawless record.
    Sure he was.
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    I did this very quickly so sorry if I have missed anyone of significance (spelling)


    SF Barnes
    Bill O'Reilly
    Lillee
    Lohmann
    Ambrose
    Marshall
    Wasim
    Richardson (Tom)
    Rhodes
    Warne
    You know it makes sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    Try telling McGrath that...or basically most of the Australian team itself.
    Err, maybe because he was a spinner, and one of such quality is rarer than a fast bowler.
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    Umm, probably already done one of these on this site, and this one will almost certainly be totally different to that one

    1. Hadlee
    2. Garner
    3. Marshall
    4. Warne
    5. Trueman
    6. Murali
    7. Lindwall
    8. Barnes
    9. Ambrose
    10. Wasim
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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    Agreed. Akram was arguably the most talented fast bowler of all, but Imran achieved more and was a greater matchwinner.
    Err How did Imran achieve more than Akram as a fast bowler or a greater match winner than the later ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Err, maybe because he was a spinner, and one of such quality is rarer than a fast bowler.
    For some reason, I'm sure that it doesn't come close to explaining it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Err How did Imran achieve more than Akram as a fast bowler or a greater match winner than the later ?
    Didn't Wasim also have a better record as Captain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    For some reason, I'm sure that it doesn't come close to explaining it.
    Because world-class spinners such as Warne are a rarity in cricket compared to fast bowlers, and the cricket community tends to magnify his achievements as they are accustomed to fast bowlers usually taking the wickets.

    This also tends to hide the fact that McGrath is more consistent and effective bowler with a better record in nearly all respects. Just not as flashy and appealling.

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    In no particular order

    S F Barnes
    S Warne
    C Walsh
    M Marshall
    R Lindwall
    D Lillee
    F Trueman
    R Hadlee
    W O'Reilly
    R Benaud/L Gibbs (can't separate them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    Didn't Wasim also have a better record as Captain?
    Let's leave captaincy out of it and analyze it from a pure bowling's perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMAC View Post
    In no particular order

    S F Barnes
    S Warne
    C Walsh
    M Marshall
    R Lindwall
    D Lillee
    F Trueman
    R Hadlee
    W O'Reilly
    R Benaud/L Gibbs (can't separate them)
    It has to be in a "particular order" otherwise it makes the awarding of points rather tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    Didn't Wasim also have a better record as Captain?
    In terms of victories, maybe, but he had the advantage of captaining a better side and playing against weaker opposition. Doesnt mean he was better.

    Imran won a World Cup and drew three consecutives series against the best side of his time (West Indies).

    Wasim lost the World Cup final horribly and was easily beaten by the best side of his time (Australia).

    Almost every Pakistani player whose played under both feel Imran was the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    In terms of victories, maybe, but he had the advantage of captaining a better side and playing against weaker opposition. Doesnt mean he was better.

    Imran won a World Cup and drew three consecutives series against the best side of his time (West Indies).

    Wasim lost the World Cup final horribly and was easily beaten by the best side of his time (Australia).

    Almost every Pakistani player whose played under both feel Imran was the best.
    And that automatically means that Imran was the better bowler and acieved more as one ?

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