Mick Lewis Tribute Thread

[Tom Halsey]

Then read the second line of the post. The point was brought up because of his record breaking performance, but it is clearly more about his general mediocrity...and again about the air of nastiness about the thread, it was clearly outlined that the thread is friendly banter.

And how do you think Lewis feels about all this "friendly banter" which has also been going on in the corwds, and he will no doubt have noticed?

I bet he feels quite lonely.

 

[danish]

And how do you think Lewis feels about all this "friendly banter" which has been going on in the corwds, and he will no doubt have noticed?

I bet he feels quite lonely.

The guy decided to play international Cricket for the Australian team. He knew the consequences of failure. Utter utter failure...

 

[Tom Halsey]

The guy decided to play international Cricket for the Australian team. He knew the consequences of failure. Utter utter failure...

He was picked...

He's a decent enough domestic bowler, and it was probably his dream to play for Australia, and this is what happened...

I feel for the guy.

 

[Langeveldt]

I've just seen the match on a recording..

I though Mick lewis actually bowled okay, he varied his pace and bowled a lot of good block hole balls.. What happened was every time he was slightly off line he got hit for a boundary.. I think it was more clinical batting than rubbish bowling.. The guy has no pace, but I've seen far worse spells go for far less many a time..

He was definitely nearly in tears when they put the "Mick lewis concedes more runs than any other bowler in an ODI" on the big screen.. I would have felt sorry for the guy had he not been mouthing off to the SA batsmen all series..

 

[luckyeddie]

He was picked...

He's a decent enough domestic bowler, and it was probably his dream to play for Australia, and this is what happened...

I feel for the guy.

Me too. There but for the grace of god goes Jon Lewis, Rikki Clarke, Kabir Ali etc etc etc.

 

[Langeveldt]

I don't think any cricketer has had a more disasterous match in the history of the game.. At least when champions fail badly they can look back to the good times, and the thought that they can make amends.. This new kid has been shoved into the bullring and been absolutely shredded in front of millions of people.. I'd be very impressed with the lad if he can come back in any form of the game really..

 

[Dasa]

A note, I clearly said I was over it, yet you and Halsey brought this up again.

As opposed to saying something negative about Lewis, who has had much less of an opportunity at international level, and may not be of the same class, but surely put in a big effort all the same. The players who deserved to be ridiculed for failure are those who are clearly talented enough to play international cricket, but still fail miserably at it.

Clearly you can see the difference between ridiculing any other player and ridiculing Murali? A player who has been vilified his entire career, and people jump onto any chance to rip into him. It's different from ridiculing a Stuart MacGill or Michael Vaughan or any other player. That's why I defended Murali.

And how do you think Lewis feels about all this "friendly banter" which has been going on in the corwds, and he will no doubt have noticed?

I bet he feels quite lonely.

I think it's disgraceful. It's one thing to have friendly banter after the event on an internet forum, it's another to publicly ridicule a player.


Anyway (I'll say it again and maybe someone will actually take notice of it this time!), I'm over it! Perhaps I overreacted in my effort to defend a player who has been unfairly targeted his entire career.

 

[social]

Me too. There but for the grace of god goes Jon Lewis, Rikki Clarke, Kabir Ali etc etc etc.

Exactly - plenty of worse bowlers have played a LOT of test matches.

Ive personally played with DeFreitas, Pringle, Chris Cowdrey, Martin Bicknell, the Hollioake brothers and those guys were hardly decent grade cricketers - Lewis is better than all of those.

Lewis would deifinitely have played test match cricket for SL (Fernando anyone? - that guy is absolute dross and wouldnt play fc in Aus), NZ, Windies, India (have a look at their lineup of great quicks), Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

Unfortunately, IMO, he was picked for Aus when their were better options available and performed poorly.

It's happened to others before and will happen to plenty of others in the future.

 

[Goughy]

Exactly - Ive personally played with DeFreitas, Pringle, Chris Cowdrey, Martin Bicknell, the Hollioake brothers and those guys were hardly decent grade cricketers - Lewis is better than all of those.

Its really incredible that in late 80's early 90's DeFreitas on a good day illicited comparisons to Hadlee in sections of the British media. I'm not sure what that would make Lewis comparable to.

I do have a bone to pick though. How can you criticise Pringle playing for England. He went to Cambridge don't you know. For that the man deserved his chance, old chap.

Next you will be telling me cricketing ability is more important in picking a cricket team than breeding and the ability to speak Latin. Tut, tut, the decline in standards in the modern game!

 

[sirjeremy11]

Is Mick Leiws related to Rawl Lewis at all?

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I though Mick lewis actually bowled okay, he varied his pace and bowled a lot of good block hole balls.. What happened was every time he was slightly off line he got hit for a boundary.. I think it was more clinical batting than rubbish bowling.. The guy has no pace, but I've seen far worse spells go for far less many a time..

I'm glad someone else mentioned that, I thought I was going nuts. Lewis didn't bowl well or anything, but his death overs really weren't that bad. In any other situation they certainly wouldn't have gone for that many.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

I have to admit that I didn't watch the game, not having cable tv. However, from what I've read and heard, you have to wonder (a) why Ponting persisted with Lewis when it was clear he was being smacked around the park, and (b) didn't Bracken drop Gibbs off Lewis' bowling early in the game. I don't normally play what if games, but surely if Bracken had held on to the catch, things might have been a little different?

 

[Ikki]

I have to admit that I didn't watch the game, not having cable tv. However, from what I've read and heard, you have to wonder (a) why Ponting persisted with Lewis when it was clear he was being smacked around the park, and (b) didn't Bracken drop Gibbs off Lewis' bowling early in the game. I don't normally play what if games, but surely if Bracken had held on to the catch, things might have been a little different?

I'm pretty sure Lewis would have still been hit for 4's and 6's but if Gibbs was out, then I doubt they would have reached the target.

 

[Ikki]

I can see why people are upset with Mick. I mean the guy bowled more than just poor. He was getting whacked for every ball and the idiot kept bowling in the same strike zone ball after ball after getting clobbered each time. It's unbelievable how an international player did not have the intelligence to vary his bowling...for heaven's sake pitch the ball up a bit. Everything was from middle to short and he got clobbered each time. It's one thing when Murali broke the record, he just got hammered. Mick just gave them balls to get hit...again and again...and again.

 

[honestbharani]

I'm not comparing Lewis to Murali, I'm asking why Lewis deserves a thread ridiculing his massive failure yesterday but Murali doesn't deserve one ridiculing his massive failure of a few weeks ago. Murali is obviously one of the great ODI bowlers while Lewis is nothing of the sort, but there's no doubt the thread had an air of genuine nastiness about it, and if someone had made such a thread about Murali's 99, people would have been in there pointing out that Brett Lee went for 85, and rightly so.

But the point is that this thread is not made to ridicule his bad performance on Sunday. IT is to discuss the fact that he has had a very rocky beginning to his bowling career and the fact that he will be hard pressed to maintain his place in the side with blokes like Gillespie and Kasper sitting out.

 

[honestbharani]

As opposed to saying something negative about Lewis, who has had much less of an opportunity at international level, and may not be of the same class, but surely put in a big effort all the same. The players who deserved to be ridiculed for failure are those who are clearly talented enough to play international cricket, but still fail miserably at it.

so when are gonna start a thread appreciating Shaun Udal?

 

[honestbharani]

Erm, he said "it's official, Mick Lewis is now the worst ODI bowler ever" or something to that extent.

If he's going by worst figures as the "official", Murali is officially the 2nd worst.

Of course he's not, it's just to prove that the original argument was weak.

I think his record may have played a part in that. YOu guys are too touchy on the Murali issue. You seem to want to bag every guy who likes Murali here. And by you, I don't mean you exactly but all the Murali haters here and there are a fair few of them...

 

[honestbharani]

What on Earth is your problem? They're not trying to have a go at Murali at all, they're just disproving the original argument.

That Mick LEwis a bad ODI bowler?


You can prove that wrong by using Murali? That would be a first. You look at the guy's bowling and you get the impression he is not cut out for this. MAybe he can (and will) improve, but that doesn't hide the fact that he looks the worst specialist ODI bowler going around at the moment... It seems okay to ridicule an all time great like Murali and yet it is not okay to ridicule Lewis? No one is ridiculing the man or his efforts. Just pointing out that he MAY NOT be fit at the moment to play this class of the game.

 

[honestbharani]

And how do you think Lewis feels about all this "friendly banter" which has also been going on in the corwds, and he will no doubt have noticed?

I bet he feels quite lonely.

yet you guys never care about how Murali feels about such "friendly banter"...

 

[honestbharani]

He was picked...

He's a decent enough domestic bowler, and it was probably his dream to play for Australia, and this is what happened...

I feel for the guy.

I actually don't really......He was sledging guys left right and centre,and let's face it, even McGrath would not have done that. HE was an idiot out there, like Nel, really....