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    For people putting Robson how can he play for England when he has already played for Australia U19 team being Australian born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushranger View Post
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    For people putting Robson how can he play for England when he has already played for Australia U19 team being Australian born.
    ... Because he's declared he wants to play for England, toured with their Performance Squad and is now qualified to play for England.
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    Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushranger View Post
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    For people putting Robson how can he play for England when he has already played for Australia U19 team being Australian born.
    He's England Qualified so that he could play for Middlesex properly. It may have been a decision taken with finances in mind and not the heart but it is what it is. They may well put him in for a test to get him sewn up for England as he can still also play for Aus.

    Broad is not and never will be a test match 7. He is a basher who plays the occasionally masterful trolling innings.

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    I think England being top 7 in the ICC rankings going forward, is a pretty fair assessment.


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    Borthwick needs to justify his place for his batting alone if he's going to have a long Test career - at First Class level he takes less than two wickets per match and has only two five-fers - in fairness to him Durham tracks aren't generally conducive to what he does, but whichever way you cut it he's no Shane Warne (although bizarrely his overall strike rate is better than Warne's, and by a distance - I suspect because of the timing of his being brought on to bowl)

    England need to decide who their next potential match winning spinner is and then stick with him - to my mind it's obviously Kegga - he's got 11 five-fers and twice taken 10 in a match in fewer outings than Borthwick has had - he has had more favourable wickets to bowl on, but then until last season he had to share those with Keeds, who was day in day out one of the best spinners in the country, yet Kegga often outbowled him

    It's ridiculous to suggest that after one lousy outing a bowler with Kegga's talent should be discarded and if England do do that then Flower and the selectors need to be put up against a wall and shot, not just sacked
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    cbf writing up the same post I did ages ago but the gist is the stars aligned for what was always a potentially good team and they beat the crap out of a side where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Don't panic.

    Prior is still easily the best option England have and since recall has been the best wicket keeper batsman in the world. He's had a crap 6 months, but many do. Keep the faith.

    I wouldn't change much. I'd be wary of dropping Carberry since he wasn't an improvement on the much maligned but statistically competent Compton, who was shunted fairly quickly once everyone realised he was no Compton snr but just a solid and uninspiring batsman. I've never seen Robson play so I have no idea how good he is but don't make a similar mistake with Carberry. Sometimes you just need to settle, like South Africa have with Alviro.

    You guys also need to decide where Root plays. IMO batting number three for England as a young man isn't the most trying job in the world, though it is tough. Still, Bravo and Williamson bat at three for teams which have had even less stability from the openers than England does now at times. With Stokes succeeding down the order there isn't really room to play Root as the sheltered rookie anymore and he has opened in CC hasn't he? Bat him at three and see what he is made of.

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    The thing about Prior is that all his struggles have been against the one team. Or was his home series against NZ no good either?

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    If I was picking an XI for a game that started tomorrow. I'd go with:

    Cook
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    Lot of rebuilding to do for England. I wasn't too keen on dropping too many players, but the 5th Test was embarrassing. Bairstow definitely has to go and I'd replace him with Buttler, until Prior goes away and scores runs for Sussex Buttler's the best shout, Root needs big runs for Yorks to even be considered, Carbs needs to go away and pile on the runs, I'd go for Taylor ahead of Ballance, and then I think Kerrigan should be given another go. Had a shocker in his first Test, but is a better bowling option than Borthwick or Dockrell right now for me.
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    Styris to Pietersen, SIX, that's the most extraordinary shot, he switches his grip to that of a left-hander and launches Stryis high over long-off for a might six. That is one of the more incredible shots you'll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    The thing about Prior is that all his struggles have been against the one team. Or was his home series against NZ no good either?
    No good vs. NZ in Eng as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    No good vs. NZ in Eng as well.

    Only 2 Tests though. Masterful away to them. Think he went into the Ashes slightly out of nick after that NZ series, and then having the same opponent thereafter has really worked him over.

    I'd have him back against Sri Lanka unless he fails miserably early season for Sussex.
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    Shouldn't Woakes now be a shoe-in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    Shouldn't Woakes now be a shoe-in?
    So Woakes as 4th bowler as back up to Stokes, Anderson and Broad?

    Wouldn't be against that. 6,7 and 8 being Woakes, Stokes and keeper in whatever order they choose.

    Might be the right time to go back to making side tough to beat by having long batting line up like they did when Swann and Broad first started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    Shouldn't Woakes now be a shoe-in?
    Do you realise what shoe-in means? Of course he isn't, especially considering Stokes now occupies the role he was initially picked for.

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