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Thread: The last Ashes without referrals – a running tally of umpiring errors

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    What i think will make Ponting more angry isnt the fact it didnt carry so much as they chose not to goto the 3rd Umpire when they did for Bopara yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well, there's an error that's cost Australia a wicket, without being a bad out decision as such - obvious no-ball, not called, from Flintoff that dismisses Katich.

    The referral system would obviously not have changed that, just needs some sort of proper no-ball-calling mechanism.

    So that's 1-1 on the "wickets lost due to errors" score.
    Isn't the first thing that is checked for all referrals is whether or not it was a legal ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Isn't the first thing that is checked for all referrals is whether or not it was a legal ball?
    Yah, but the point is you wouldn't refer a clearly caught catch in case it was a no ball. If referrals had been in place, that wicket wouldn't have been referred, so the no ball would not have been spotted

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Isn't the first thing that is checked for all referrals is whether or not it was a legal ball?
    I think he means that it wouldn't have been referred by either of the batsmen. Edit: As above.

    I'm just thinking out loud here, but because of incidents like this, would it be plausible to simply check each dismissal for no-balls? Referrals clearly aren't going to have much of an impact on them, and it only takes a second or two for it to be checked by the third umpire.
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    Ah yeah, my bad.

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    Hussey very lucky to survive Andersons' lbw shout with Australia 79-3 - pad first - looked stone dead, Hawkeye had it hitting the top of off stump

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    Yeah, lucky to get away with it. Can understand that there would have been a fair bit of doubt to deal with, but in the end it was pretty out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post

    I'm just thinking out loud here, but because of incidents like this, would it be plausible to simply check each dismissal for no-balls? Referrals clearly aren't going to have much of an impact on them, and it only takes a second or two for it to be checked by the third umpire.
    Yeah was thinking they could have some kind of system similar to cyclops in tennis..could really do it for every ball without too much delay...would be decided by the time the bowler got to the end of his mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Hussey very lucky to survive Andersons' lbw shout with Australia 79-3 - pad first - looked stone dead, Hawkeye had it hitting the top of off stump
    Had it clipping the outside of the top of off TBH - n\o fair enough there for mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Yeah was thinking they could have some kind of system similar to cyclops in tennis..could really do it for every ball without too much delay...would be decided by the time the bowler got to the end of his mark
    Have thought they should have a machine for no-balls that does the same job as the Cyclops does in tennis for donkey's years... at risk of broken-record.jpg's, it should've been the very first technological Umpiring aid brought in.

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    Well, whether Hussey was out or not to that lbw earlier, he was absolutely certainly not out when he did get given...

    So that's 3-1 to England on the "out"s.

    Speaking of which, though, Australia are damn lucky that all these bad "out" decisions have come in an innings where they were just waiting to be beaten. They haven't impacted on the result at all.
    Last edited by Richard; 19-07-2009 at 07:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well, whether Hussey was out or not to that lbw earlier, he was absolutely certainly not out when he did get given...

    So that's 3-1 to England on the "out"s.

    Speaking of which, though, Australia are damn lucky that all these bad "out" decisions have come in an innings where they were just waiting to be beaten. They haven't impacted on the result at all.
    Pretty sure that any Australian Cricket fan would not have this attitude that it didn't impact on the result at all.

    You never know with Katich, Hughes or Hussey, they could have done anything if they had of survived a near miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Speaking of which, though, Australia are damn lucky that all these bad "out" decisions have come in an innings where they were just waiting to be beaten. They haven't impacted on the result at all.
    God I lol'd.

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    Really can't agree that they didn't affect the outcome at all. If Australia had been no wickets down at lunch for example, the game would look very different and anything could have happened from there. I'll agree that the Hussey decision didn't have a real impact since it was pretty much over by that stage, but disagree strongly about the first two.

    Just because England were well on top and likely winners doesn't mean that the game was over.
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