dontcloseyoureyes
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He's been one of NSW best OD bowlers this season. No idea why he's close to the FC side, though.
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Mister Wright
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Casson hasn't really done that well though, and he averages over 40 in domestic cricket. Surely Macgill is the first choice, but Casson isn't doing himself any favours.dontcloseyoureyes said:
tooextracool
International Coach
Id be extremely surprised if they didnt go after the 2 of them with short balls. I mean theres no way they want any of the England batsmen to spend too much time in the middle and get themselves into form. Flintoff in particular has barely scored a run since return and playing him back into form would be plain stupid. From reports Pietersen nearly got himself out playing the hook shot.Woodster said:
Nice to see 4 of our top 6 getting runs - Trescothivk failed again though - will Fletcher drop him if he fails at Adelaide? I have to say credit to NSW for the team they are fielding - there are worse attacks in Test cricket then McGrath, Lee, Braken and Clark - and apparently SA will play a strong side agaonst us too. What a contrast to when Australia come here and the counties field weak teams to give Aussie barsmen easy runs. I know England A play the tourists now - and did well against SL and Pakistan during the summer - but we need combined county teams to give the tourists tough games .
Woodster
International Captain
I wasn't suggesting the Aussies want to play them 2 into form, obviously. Bowling short is not the only way of removing them. Its like when Warne bowls against England players before a series, he won't show them the full repertoire of his armoury to get them used to and practice playing against him.
I appreciate they want our 2 key players going into the 1st Test low on confidence, but there's more than one way to skin a cat!!
I appreciate they want our 2 key players going into the 1st Test low on confidence, but there's more than one way to skin a cat!!
tooextracool
International Coach
Well i think that a spin bowler not bowling his slider or googly is quite different from a fast bowler not bowling a short ball. Variations of length are completely different from variations in bowling because you have to be able to pick a slider and pick a googly from the hand, which is different from getting throat balls. As such everyone including Pietersen and Flintoff know exactly what the Australian plan is so its not like they wont be expecting it. Regardless, most reports claim that Lee and Mcgrath both tried to bounce Pietersen and Flintoff and obviously it didnt work out too successfully.Woodster said:
Woodster
International Captain
I appreciate what you are saying, but the principles are stil the same. Both Freddie and KP are putting in the hours in the nets working on playing the short ball, and what better way to perfect that than getting some throat balls in match situations.
Think you may have taken my point far too literally, it was merely a comment to decipher if they were peppered or whether the Aussies tried them out early, then decided to keep that weapon in their pockets till it really matters. Don't think that its too inconceivable that the Aussie Test bowlers would do that.
Think you may have taken my point far too literally, it was merely a comment to decipher if they were peppered or whether the Aussies tried them out early, then decided to keep that weapon in their pockets till it really matters. Don't think that its too inconceivable that the Aussie Test bowlers would do that.
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
It's a lot of talk, just to look good. Sure, if it's really obvious, they'll apprehend someone, but in most cases, it'd be pretty tough to identify who it is doing all the abusing.wpdavid said:
albo97056
U19 Cricketer
For me the last batting spot is between collingwood and cook, no way bell can be dropped after he practically carried the odi side since the summer and had an amazing summer and previous winter in the tests, he must have the best average in the last calender year than anyone in the side
Scaly piscine
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Cook is an obvious choice and Collingwood should be ahead of Bell, they've similar records when you remove the Bangladesh freebies but Bell was completely useless against Australia because of his mental issues which don't seem to have been resolved and Collingwood is a better fielder.albo97056 said:
Although they should both end up playing ahead of Tresco if he's not all there.
tooextracool
International Coach
Geraint continuing to show everyone why he deserves to start at Brisbane....
tooextracool
International Coach
No cook, has a better record for 2006 than Bell . hes also scored just as many hundreds, and hes been successful in all 3 of the series hes played. Cook isnt going to be dropped, its never been an issue really. For mine its 2 spots between Trescothick v Bell v Collingwood and all 3 of them will probably only get one more outing to push for their place.albo97056 said:
tooextracool
International Coach
is there really a point in having hoggard and co bat right now? wouldnt the time be much better spent having the bowlers get a bit of a run in instead?