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Semi Finals/Final - Australia, Sri Lanka, England and Pakistan

Prince EWS

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PEWS did all of this analysis a year ago. Cricinfo are way behind.

The moral of the story is that you need six real batsmen in a T20. And if Michael Clarke bats at four, one of them will inevitably have to bat at seven.

EDIT: http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/1927861-post5.html
Yeah, Hussey's innings makes my post look a bit stupid I guess, but I doubt Australia would've been chasing such a ridiculous amount had they played Ryan Harris in front of Clarke in first place given how much better the three specialist bowlers performed. Furthermore, while Hussey may have been batting seven, he certainly isn't the seventh best batsman in that team. If you're going to pick Clarke you probably do indeed need a proper batsman at seven. :p
 

Uppercut

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Shane Watson's a big factor. He's a bowler of real quality in T20. A five-pronged pace attack with another spinner on top of Dussey and Clarke would certainly be a bit of an overkill.
 

Prince EWS

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Shane Watson's a big factor. He's a bowler of real quality in T20. A five-pronged pace attack with another spinner on top of Dussey and Clarke would certainly be a bit of an overkill.
Yeah, I did mention that in my post - at the time Watto wasn't fit to bowl.

myself said:
If Watto was available to bowl I'd bring Dussey in for Siddle or Hauritz
If you've got five proper bowlers in the side anyway you can obviously play a specialist bat at seven, but I'm still not sure if I really trust either Watson or Smith to be one of the best four bowlers in a T20 team under pressure. I definitely think Harris would add a lot more to the team than Clarke, but then again so would Marsh, and I'm not entirely sure what sort of balance I'd want to go with given the choice. I guess it'd depend on the form of Watto and Smith, and the pitch conditions. The last match sort of showed up the former a little bit. The specialist quicks bowled reasonably economically early on but couldn't get the breakthrough, so then Watto and Smith were belted. Don't think the carnage would've been as bad if Harris played, although planning for your opening bowlers to go wicketless probably makes about as much sense as planning for your team to be 5/90.
 

Briony

International Debutant
Australia has a big chance if it limits the number of balls Clarke faces.

Good to see the two most talented teams in the final though.
 

Burgey

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I am supporting England.. Hope they win..they have played very well throughout the tournment.
Yes, I am supporting England today too. They have been, imo, the best team this tournament, and I dearly hope they triumph in the final.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Also, Mussey, WAFG.

Second also, lol at Australia for still picking Clarke and not having Hussey in the original squad.
Best limited overs batsmen around, bar none. If you were building a robot to play LO cricket, you'd base it on Mussey.

Doesn't bog down the strike by patting the ball to fielders - check.
Is very quick between the wickets and a good runner - check.
Has the talent to pick gaps to run 2s - check.
Has the fitness to do a lot of running in the latter stages of the match to keep the scoreboard ticking - check.
Has the power to bomb the ball into the stands if the situation requires it - check.

He's got literally no weaknesses in his LO game.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Shane Watson's a big factor. He's a bowler of real quality in T20. A five-pronged pace attack with another spinner on top of Dussey and Clarke would certainly be a bit of an overkill.
Watson
Warner
Paine +
White*
Dussey
Mussey
Smith
Johnson
Bollinger
Nannes
Tait

tbh.
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Best limited overs batsmen around, bar none. If you were building a robot to play LO cricket, you'd base it on Mussey.

Doesn't bog down the strike by patting the ball to fielders - check.
Is very quick between the wickets and a good runner - check.
Has the talent to pick gaps to run 2s - check.
Has the fitness to do a lot of running in the latter stages of the match to keep the scoreboard ticking - check.
Has the power to bomb the ball into the stands if the situation requires it - check.

He's got literally no weaknesses in his LO game.
Can field, too

Watson
Warner
Paine +
White*
Dussey
Mussey
Smith
Johnson
Bollinger
Nannes
Tait

tbh.
Nah, too many bowlers and not enough bats for mine. I think the bowling is good atm, with three out and out specialist bowlers, two allrounders in Watto and Smith, and a good part-timer in Hussey. Ideal team for me would be pretty much what we're fielding atm, only with Hodge in for Clarke, and Bollinger as 12th man.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Nah, too many bowlers and not enough bats for mine. I think the bowling is good atm, with three out and out specialist bowlers, two allrounders in Watto and Smith, and a good part-timer in Hussey. Ideal team for me would be pretty much what we're fielding atm, only with Hodge in for Clarke, and Bollinger as 12th man.
See, it's my opinion that you need at least 4 specialist bowlers in T20 - for all that the Aussies bowled well, they didn't inflict damage on the Pakistani top order which meant that the Pakistanis had freedom to go after the part time bowlers. Having a 4th specialist means that the pressure would have been maintained for a couple more overs - which could have seen Pakistan implode.
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
See, it's my opinion that you need at least 4 specialist bowlers in T20 - for all that the Aussies bowled well, they didn't inflict damage on the Pakistani top order which meant that the Pakistanis had freedom to go after the part time bowlers. Having a 4th specialist means that the pressure would have been maintained for a couple more overs - which could have seen Pakistan implode.
But on the other side, having the extra batsman meant that they had the luxury of Hussey coming in at number 7 to take them home. It works both ways.
 

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