Group E - England, India, South Africa, West Indies

[wpdavid]

A tie will take the Windies through tomorrow so we're gonna have to go for the win

The weather might be an issue. Last time I checked, it's forecast to chuck it down.

 

[GIMH]

No ties, super-over.

Oh yeah. keep forgetting about that. Jeez I don't think I could handle one of them

 

[Dissector]

Basically we have a quarter-final in each group. SA is through and Pakistan is through if they beat Ireland. NRR is now irrelevant. It looks like SA's tournament to lose and certainly if they don't pull it off the c-word is going to be brought out again.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Hope England replace Mascarenhas. Just a passenger who can't do a job at this level on these sorts of pitches.

 

[Smith]

We were brilliant

Of course England were the better side. But England did not make India give away ****ing 16 extras, ie, 10 more than what England gave. Also England did not make India send in a part timer to "protect" their best batsman.

England obviously has imminent problems to work upon as regards to their batting. Owaste Shah and Dimitri Nascar has to step up or give way. There is too much reliance on KP and not always he is going to click.

Would agree that India lost rather than England won.

 

[roseboy64]

No ties, super-over.

Rain.

 

[grecian]

Can't really see what Wright has done wrong tbh. In this tournament and in the warm-ups he's got quick runs and has failed no more often than is reasonable to expect. He's fielded well and he's bowled well in highly pressurised situations.

Just think, as others have said, against the better bowlers who bowl short and quick he's looking all at sea at the start of the innings. Taylor and Edwards against him tomorrow

I agree with you about him in the field, I'd be happy if Owais made way and Wright batted down the order, but I really want Napier in.

 

[Smith]

The sad thing is, there will be a couple of ODI series in India and Raina will keep pulling waist high 'short' balls merrily and the crowd will forget all about this debacle. The newspapers are going to annoy the hell out of me for one week. Thats for sure.

Yeah. And as usual the impossible short leg side boundaries only helping his cause.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Hope England replace Mascarenhas. Just a passenger who can't do a job at this level on these sorts of pitches.

Napier for Dimi wouldn't be the worst shout.

 

[GIMH]

Of course England were the better side. But England did not make India give away ****ing 16 extras, ie, 10 more than what England gave. Also England did not make India send in a part timer to "protect" their best batsman.

England obviously has imminent problems to work upon as regards to their batting. Owaste Shah and Dimitri Nascar has to step up or give way. There is too much reliance on KP and not always he is going to click.

Would agree that India lost rather than England won.

India never made our seamers bowl brilliantly either, but whatever

 

[four_or_six]

Napier for Dimi wouldn't be the worst shout.

It's a big ask for Napier to come in and make his debut now, though.

 

[GIMH]

Love Foster's stumping more each time I see it. Gonna watch the highlights on BBC later, feel chuffed.

 

[superkingdave]

It's a big ask for Napier to come in and make his debut now, though.

I think if he replaced Dimi though he's not under massive pressure, he's not necessarily got to bowl his full allocation and is essentially a floating hitter

 

[G.I.Joe]

Strategy? Horrible.
Team selection? Very Horrible.

But the top order's inability to play the short ball, or at least see it off? Disgraceful. That was the difference.

Yeah, thats true. I do think England wouldn't make 100 if this was played on a proper subcontinental turner though. The younger Indian players aren't exposed to such conditions, and its tougher adjusting to the pitch when you've got to go after the bowling from ball one, compared to Test cricket where you're afforded the luxury of playing yourself in. The inability of the guys to play the short ball is far more excusable than the blunders that could have been avoided with some common sense.

I do hope this is the end of Ishant as a T20I bowler, atleast until he spends some of that $900,000 on some lessons on adaptive bowling. Jadeja's bowling isn't good enough to carry his batting (or lack of) at the expense of a genuine match winner like Ojha. In a way England chose their lineup like the Indians do, picking the specialist Foster ahead of Prior, while India selected like England usually do - playing the bits and pieces Jadeja ahead of the specialist Ojha. Heck we even have the Harmison counterpart in Ishant.

 

[Xuhaib]

One thing this game shows Raina and Rohit are not yet ready to really step it up the potential is there but still not the total package.

 

[four_or_six]

I think if he replaced Dimi though he's not under massive pressure, he's not necessarily got to bowl his full allocation and is essentially a floating hitter

True. I'd love to see him too. But it's difficult as we have no idea how he'd go. At least with Dimi you know what you're getting.

 

[Uppercut]

I Think you are right.. There was no need to experiement for the sake of experimenting.. Dhoni came in at 3 for all games and i thought it was for the right/left combination.. but against WI when rohit got out he sends in Raina.. Wonder what he was thinking... Eng although are crap, cant take them lightly...

Didnt he score 87 in the last ODI he played, Wasn't he one of the Success stories of the Windies Tour.. England are crap in all forms becuase of this stupidness.. It's 20 overs ffs and even if prior can drop a few it's ok his batting his destructive enough... IMO

England are pure and unadulterated BS in any form of cricket T20 they are the best..

How'd that work out for ya Ganesh?

 

[Sirhail]

BRILLIANT WIN FROM ENGLAND!!!

i loved the passion from the england bowling and fielding. their battin wasnt too shabby either. they still are half way tho, so bring on the west indies.

win or lose im proud of how england went about this tournament. cmon boys each game could be your last!

unlucky india, just cudnt win the big games!

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, thats true. I do think England wouldn't make 100 if this was played on a proper subcontinental turner though. The younger Indian players aren't exposed to such conditions, and its tougher adjusting to the pitch when you've got to go after the bowling from ball one, compared to Test cricket where you're afforded the luxury of playing yourself in. The inability of the guys to play the short ball is far more excusable than the blunders that could have been avoided with some common sense.

Well that's all well and good, the tournament is being held in england so it's kind of irrelevant

 

[G.I.Joe]

We were brilliant

Sure, you were. The argument is that that brilliance could have come to naught had India used some common sense.