LongHopCassidy
International Captain
Title says it all.
Knock yourselves out.
Knock yourselves out.
Panyangara and Utseya aren't that bad either.Buddhmaster said:Yep, no contest Zimbabwe of 04/05 are really bad. But I can see they have some good developing in the team in Matsycanaye(sp) and Elton Chigumbura and maybe in a couple of years, they will have a competitive team.
England's nadir was in the 2nd half of the 80's, when we really were hopeless, despite the presence of some famous names. We weren't world beaters in the 90's but we were much more competitive than we had been from 1986 to 1989. That being said, obviously the current Zim side are in a league of their own.Chubb said:I think it's very unfair to say that the 90's England team was that bad and most of the problems in that side could probably be put down to Illingworth and the other bunch of old people attempting to run the side. Its failure was administrative and selectorial not the players. Under Duncan Fletcher they probably would have acheived a lot more, and when Fletcher took over he still had the nucleus of the 90's team and results immediately improved. And if they were that bad how did they beat Australia so well in the first and last tests of the 1996 series?
As much as I support Zimbabwe I think that the current team are probably the worst ever. I (obviously) didn't see early NZ and SA sides so I don't know, of the modern era certainly Zimbabwe post-Streak and Flower.
The 1989 Ashes were, beyond question, superseded by the 1999 New Zealand loss.wpdavid said:England's nadir was in the 2nd half of the 80's, when we really were hopeless, despite the presence of some famous names. We weren't world beaters in the 90's but we were much more competitive than we had been from 1986 to 1989.
That'd be the 1997 series.Chubb said:Australia ... the 1996 series
I think this means Test-cricket.BoyBrumby said:And it's a bit tight to have "West Indies 2004" in there. Did they or did they not win the Champions Trophy?
To include these two in the same sentance is a gross insult to the latter.Mr Casson said:Panyangara and Utseya aren't that bad either.
Are the current Bangladesh and Zimbabwe teams any better?Richard said:To suggest that any might be worse than the early SAfricans or NZers is ridiculous..
Ever heard of Learie Constantine, Manny Martindale, Clifford Roach, George Challenor?Richard said:And it'd be the case with West Indies too but for George Headley.
but they lost to Bangladesh in 2005BlackCap_Fan said:Zim 2004. Honestly. They lost to Bangladesh.