Who was an ATG FC cricketer

[TheJediBrah]

JP Duminy

Tests: 2103 runs at 32.85
First-class: 4671 runs at 56.28

His bowling is worse at first-class though

heh almost the exact same for Ravi Jadeja

Tests: 1485 runs at 32.28
First-class: 3930 runs at 56.14

(yeah I know he was already mentioned, just thought the similarity was interesting)

 

[stephen]

Duminy is a waste man. Had the skill to bat long and big but only ever performed against Australia.

 

[stephen]

Duminy has as many centuries in Australia as he has in South Africa, despite playing 7 tests in the former and 19 in the latter.

In addition to this, one of his two home test centuries was against Australia.

In addition to this, half his career centuries were against Australia.

It's absurd and he played a huge role in several series wins against Australia.

But then he got owned as soon as he played England or India.

 

[morgieb]

Surprised Siddons didn't get the token brief run in the aus side ala Law, Elliott, Di Venuto, Hodge, Love

He truly got no love

Well Diva didn't play any Tests, Siddons got 2 ODI's IIRC.

What is odder was that he was a fair bit older than those blokes so played in a time where Australia's batting depth was quite poor. From what I can tell it had something to do with getting clocked by Merv in a Shield game (or at least that's what TC said)

 

[Jarquis]

I only just realised that if you take out Test cricket records, you may see a completely different cricketer.

Examples:

Mark Waugh scored 18,826 runs @ 58.10 if you ignore his test record of 8,029 runs @ 41.81

Richie Benaud would walk into Australia's current side as a batsman given his FC batting average of 41.20 excluding Tests

Keith Miller scored 11,225 runs @ 53.45 and took 327 wkts @ 21.96 outside of Test cricket, surely the greatest FC allrounder ever?

Who else?

Does the Bradman rule apply to WG Grace if we're talking FC cricket? I assume so based on the above..

 

[morgieb]

Duminy has as many centuries in Australia as he has in South Africa, despite playing 7 tests in the former and 19 in the latter.

In addition to this, one of his two home test centuries was against Australia.

In addition to this, half his career centuries were against Australia.

It's absurd and he played a huge role in several series wins against Australia.

But then he got owned as soon as he played England or India.

Duminy is probably the cricketer whose Test failures are the most perplexing. He certainly wasn't a FTB IMO and while he did struggle against spin (which probably explains why he did so well against Australia compared to India) he looked pretty outstanding when he did get in. Maybe he needed to bat up the order? Injuries didn't help either I guess.

 

[trundler]

Watching those Australia A Tri series matches and Siddons looks absolutely awesome.

 

[trundler]

Hold on, I could be confusing him with someone else here

 

[Burgey]

Jack Hobbs

 

[Burgey]

Hold on, I could be confusing him with someone else here

I don’t know that he played in them mate. Blewett, Ponting, Martyn, Hayden all did iirc. Maybe Stu Law as well. Not entirely sure.

Other excellent FC players of that time were Jamie Cox and Dean Hills from Tassie. Couldn’t get a game.

Apologies if they’ve been mentioned already

 

[wpdavid]

Same with Ken Barrington. His test record is way higher than his FC stats. It's odd

Possibly true for Vaughan and Trescothick too. But I'll need someone else to check as I have to be out of here soon.

 

[morgieb]

Possibly true for Vaughan and Trescothick too. But I'll need someone else to check as I have to be out of here soon.

Trescothick's FC average less his Test performance is 40.33, though in fairness that's improved a lot since his Test retirement (and has declined a bit now he's over 40)

Vaughan's FC average sans Test matches is 34.90, which is significantly worse than his Test one.

 

[aussie tragic]

Alan Davidson FC is 5476 runs @ 35.79 (with 9 centuries) and 486 wkts @ 21.04 when excluding Tests

Pretty handy allrounder there so may have suffered from batting too low in tests?

 

[Starfighter]

I think JP Duminy was just a plot to wreck Australia at home and nothing more.

 

[morgieb]

Alan Davidson FC is 5476 runs @ 35.79 (with 9 centuries) and 486 wkts @ 21.04 when excluding Tests

Pretty handy allrounder there so may have suffered from batting too low in tests?

Well the quality of attacks he was facing would've been a lot better at Test level than Shield level in fairness. Especially when you consider NSW had all the great bowlers of the time.

 

[Starfighter]

Especially when you consider NSW had all the great bowlers of the time.

How dare you cast aspersions on John Drennan and Ray Strauss. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[mr_mister]

Still, it's a fair point. That's the mark of a solid number 6 and his test stats imply he was basically a bowler who could bat a bit. Wasim level or so

 

[morgieb]

How dare you cast aspersions on John Drennan and Ray Strauss. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is it bad that I had to Google who these guys were?

 

[Starfighter]

Is it bad that I had to Google who these guys were?

Refer back to my second sentence.

​No.

 

[Prince EWS]

Blocky.