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Which Indian team wins in India?

Which Indian team wins in India?

  • Team Dhoni

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • Team Kohli

    Votes: 10 58.8%

  • Total voters
    17

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I am with OS in this debate. I do think it will be close between these sides mainly because the depth of the current side can make up for the quality of the noughties batting line up. Plus Ganguly/Yuvi I feel is even today a step down from the current middle order.

But Virat's side is the 3rd best test side I have seen in my time of watching cricket (post 1990), so I guess to me, they are just better than the noughties India as a test side overall.
 

Xix2565

International Regular
Well if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Again, says nothing on how those two would go. You're still assuming they'd be better than Ashwin and Jadeja + 3rd spinner just because of who they are though. Kohli's side still won all the Test series they played in. Stop making **** arguments for once in your life and be normal please.
 

CricAddict

International Coach
Well if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Harbi has one series against Australia. Ashwin and Jadeja rout opposition every series they play. Bumrah, Shami and Siraj are improvements over Zaheer and Sreesanth/Pathan. Bowling is better in Kohli's team while the batting is better in Dhoni's side, especially with Sachin :wub: in there. But India has always done well in batting at home even now, it is only overseas that the batters have issues.

As much as I love Sachin, I do think Kohli's team will win easily based on the above.
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Harbi has one series against Australia. Ashwin and Jadeja rout opposition every series they play. Bumrah, Shami and Siraj are improvements over Zaheer and Sreesanth/Pathan. Bowling is better in Kohli's team while the batting is better in Dhoni's side, especially with Sachin :wub: in there. But India has always done well in batting at home even now, it is only overseas that the batters have issues.

As much as I love Sachin, I do think Kohli's team will win easily based on the above.
Habhi also bowled fairly well in the 2004/5 series against Australia, including to victory in the 4th test on a similar spiced up wicket. And you haven't even mentioned Kumble.

No doubt Kohli has a better overall attack but I think the series result will be decided on spin, and I think with the spiced up pitches it is fairly even on spin bowling quality except the 2000s team play spin much, much better. I don't have any confidence at all that Kohli's team will regularly post 200 against Harbi/Kumble.
 
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subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Again, says nothing on how those two would go. You're still assuming they'd be better than Ashwin and Jadeja + 3rd spinner just because of who they are though. Kohli's side still won all the Test series they played in. Stop making **** arguments for once in your life and be normal please.
I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.

We have already established that Kohli's team faced inferior opposition compared to the 2000s version. You had no response to that.

I think you need to calm down and actually give a counter argument rather than getting all excited.
 

CricAddict

International Coach
Habhi also bowled fairly well in the 2004/5 series against Australia, including to victory in the 4th test on a similar spiced up wicket. And you haven't even mentioned Kumble.

No doubt Kohli has a better overall attack but I think the series result will be decided on spin, and I think with the spiced up pitches it is fairly even on spin bowling quality except the 2000s team play spin much, much better.
You are seriously not comparing Harbi to Ashwin and Jadeja, isn't it? Harbhajan got dropped once Ashwin got in. ****ing Ojha and Rahul Sharma got a place in squad ahead of him when he was 31 years old.


I have already mentioned in another post that Kumble may be slightly better than Ashwin in the opinion of most people though I rate them equals.

Saying that the spin bowling quality is fairly even is a big joke. Ashwin+Jadeja>>>>Kumble+Bhajji

Yes, 2000s team played spin better than 2010s but on Indian pitches, both these Indian batting line-ups fare fairly similar. Take up the standardized averages or whatever it is that PEWS does and it will show up.
 

CricAddict

International Coach
I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.

We have already established that Kohli's team faced inferior opposition compared to the 2000s version. You had no response to that.

I think you need to calm down and actually give a counter argument rather than getting all excited.
Even I am on the 90s and 2000s had loads of ATGs while we have none now bandwagon. But that is because we were all brought up in that era and loved those cricketers more. The cricketers playing right now will be regarded as ATGs by the next generation while you consider that they are all inferior now.

But your arguments are seriously hilarious. Kohli's opposition are all inferior and so Kohli's team won over them all so easily while Dhoni's team don't have such a win-loss record since their opposition were all tough?
 

Xix2565

International Regular
I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.

We have already established that Kohli's team faced inferior opposition compared to the 2000s version. You had no response to that.

I think you need to calm down and actually give a counter argument rather than getting all excited.
No, you've said stuff that hasn't been backed up at all and then tried to run away without giving evidence. **** off or actually make an argument with evidence please.
 

CricAddict

International Coach
Well if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Harbi will do nothing other than bowl junk as usual. Kumble would have got the wickets, but at a much higher price than these guys who are monsters in routing opposition batsmen at home.
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Saying that the spin bowling quality is fairly even is a big joke. Ashwin+Jadeja>>>>Kumble+Bhajji
Yikes. I never get the Harbi hate by some Indian posters on this forum.

Yes, 2000s team played spin better than 2010s but on Indian pitches, both these Indian batting line-ups fare fairly similar. Take up the standardized averages or whatever it is that PEWS does and it will show up.
Disagree.
 

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