Murali, Mendes, McGillWho were the spinners that mid 00s India faced?
Strange. I remember him troubling Indian batsmen a lot in 2016. So much that a lot of my friends thought Moenn was a regular spinner.10 wickets @ 64 in 2016 and 8 wickets @28 in a single test in 20/21.
Also Warne, Kaneria, Swann.Murali, Mendes, McGill
Kohli’s team has the greatest matchwinner in Indian history.There is no way Kohli's team has a chance to chase 150+ against their team.
Kapil retired when Kohli was 5 tho.Kohli’s team has the greatest matchwinner in Indian history.
And The Answer.
And The Lord.
That’s only if he wasn’t a fixerKapil retired when Kohli was 5 tho.
Like Garner's batting.Look at the SL, SA, Eng, Aus, and WI sides that Kohli beat at home and compare them to the 2000s versions who were far superior.
Again, says nothing on how those two would go. You're still assuming they'd be better than Ashwin and Jadeja + 3rd spinner just because of who they are though. Kohli's side still won all the Test series they played in. Stop making **** arguments for once in your life and be normal please.Well if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Harbi has one series against Australia. Ashwin and Jadeja rout opposition every series they play. Bumrah, Shami and Siraj are improvements over Zaheer and Sreesanth/Pathan. Bowling is better in Kohli's team while the batting is better in Dhoni's side, especially with SachinWell if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Habhi also bowled fairly well in the 2004/5 series against Australia, including to victory in the 4th test on a similar spiced up wicket. And you haven't even mentioned Kumble.Harbi has one series against Australia. Ashwin and Jadeja rout opposition every series they play. Bumrah, Shami and Siraj are improvements over Zaheer and Sreesanth/Pathan. Bowling is better in Kohli's team while the batting is better in Dhoni's side, especially with Sachinin there. But India has always done well in batting at home even now, it is only overseas that the batters have issues.
As much as I love Sachin, I do think Kohli's team will win easily based on the above.
I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.Again, says nothing on how those two would go. You're still assuming they'd be better than Ashwin and Jadeja + 3rd spinner just because of who they are though. Kohli's side still won all the Test series they played in. Stop making **** arguments for once in your life and be normal please.
You are seriously not comparing Harbi to Ashwin and Jadeja, isn't it? Harbhajan got dropped once Ashwin got in. ****ing Ojha and Rahul Sharma got a place in squad ahead of him when he was 31 years old.Habhi also bowled fairly well in the 2004/5 series against Australia, including to victory in the 4th test on a similar spiced up wicket. And you haven't even mentioned Kumble.
No doubt Kohli has a better overall attack but I think the series result will be decided on spin, and I think with the spiced up pitches it is fairly even on spin bowling quality except the 2000s team play spin much, much better.
Even I am on the 90s and 2000s had loads of ATGs while we have none now bandwagon. But that is because we were all brought up in that era and loved those cricketers more. The cricketers playing right now will be regarded as ATGs by the next generation while you consider that they are all inferior now.I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.
We have already established that Kohli's team faced inferior opposition compared to the 2000s version. You had no response to that.
I think you need to calm down and actually give a counter argument rather than getting all excited.
No, you've said stuff that hasn't been backed up at all and then tried to run away without giving evidence. **** off or actually make an argument with evidence please.I never said they would be better, I said Kumble/Harbi would be in the same ballpark but the difference is that 2000s team actually has specialist players of spin.
We have already established that Kohli's team faced inferior opposition compared to the 2000s version. You had no response to that.
I think you need to calm down and actually give a counter argument rather than getting all excited.
Harbi will do nothing other than bowl junk as usual. Kumble would have got the wickets, but at a much higher price than these guys who are monsters in routing opposition batsmen at home.Well if conditions can give these guys such figures, then imagine what Kumble and Harbi would do.
Yikes. I never get the Harbi hate by some Indian posters on this forum.Saying that the spin bowling quality is fairly even is a big joke. Ashwin+Jadeja>>>>Kumble+Bhajji
Disagree.Yes, 2000s team played spin better than 2010s but on Indian pitches, both these Indian batting line-ups fare fairly similar. Take up the standardized averages or whatever it is that PEWS does and it will show up.