subshakerz
International Coach
Kohli faced better attacks generally.It's Ponting in SA.
Kohli faced better attacks generally.It's Ponting in SA.
Lloyd good shout. He faced more spin depth than Younis and just smashed them.In India, LLoyd dominated the Indian quartet. I would pick him.
Yeah Viv and Tendulkar in Australia are really touch and go. Viv's 80 series really was a level of dominance that Tendulkar never had.Not directly related to the topic, but as Tendulkar is praised for doing well in Aus at the age of 18, similarly Viv should be praised for doing well in the 75 tour, as he was relatively also inexperienced then, faced a far better bowling attack, only positive note for WI in that tour, and genuinely dominated in the second half of the series despite having the tough job of opening, because apparently Gordon Greenidge was scared out of his wits. And he had what I think the best batting series in Aus for a foreign player in 79/80, considering the quality of the attack and the extent of his domination. Despite facing weaker Aus attacks in his later career, he never cashed in too much on them.
Dravid did have his 2011 series against Anderson. But yeah Viv also has the best case here.And Plus for Eng, it should be viv. There is not much difference between an average of 64 and 70, and Viv’s SR gives him a huge advantage over Dravid and Waugh. Viv faced quality Eng attacks unlike Waugh. Plus none of them had a series like Viv 1976.
The rest of your post is valid but I never find this kind of logic persuasive.Not directly related to the topic, but as Tendulkar is praised for doing well in Aus at the age of 18, similarly Viv should be praised for doing well in the 75 tour, as he was relatively also inexperienced then, faced a far better bowling attack, only positive note for WI in that tour, and genuinely dominated in the second half of the series despite having the tough job of opening, because apparently Gordon Greenidge was scared out of his wits. And he had what I think the best batting series in Aus for a foreign player in 79/80, considering the quality of the attack and the extent of his domination. Despite facing weaker Aus attacks in his later career, he never cashed in too much on them.
That series, Broad was a bigger challenge than AndersonDravid did have his 2011 series against Anderson. But yeah Viv also has the best case here.
Averaged over 100 in Sri Lanka (65 in Asia), but only 33 in NZ. Was born in the wrong part of the world.Blunted Murali away from home unlike anyone else.
Viv:The rest of your post is valid but I never find this kind of logic persuasive.
Viv also had a poor tour in 81/82 when Australia still had Lillee and Thompson. Tendulkar was just consistently good no matter what attack he faced.
He outside the 241 in 2003, didn’t do much of substance. In 2011, he failed(only one fifty).The rest of your post is valid but I never find this kind of logic persuasive.
Viv also had a poor tour in 81/82 when Australia still had Lillee and Thompson. Tendulkar was just consistently good no matter what attack he faced.
Shouldn’t a player cash in on weaker attacks? Is this meant to be a point in his favour?Despite facing weaker Aus attacks in his later career, he never cashed in too much on them.
I am just saying it is good that his great record there was built on scoring against good attacks. If two players(X and Y) average the same, I will chose the player who scored more against better attacks.Shouldn’t a player cash in on weaker attacks? Is this meant to be a point in his favour?
Same could be said for Hadlee in the bowling stakes, though against a significantly weaker Sri Lankan side I guess.Fleming wins in SL. 2 dominant tours
And he scored 151 in SL.Same could be said for Hadlee in the bowling stakes, though against a significantly weaker Sri Lankan side I guess.