C_C said:Oh and another thing - Jack Hobbs wasnt in the list, Tendulkar was.
I can't believe he got a first ball nought, his average went just below 100, then he actually carried out his decision to retire.burkey_1988 said:Bradman ... no one will come close to his Test average of 99.94. How can you argue against that ?
Geez how arrogant are you? As if your cricketing knowledge is so much better than everyone else that think you can basically insult everyone who doesn't agree with you...Slats4ever said:everyone who's voted for sobers thinks they're the man. they think they come in and have some awesome kind of cricketing knowledge and that they're all genius's.
But no one has come close to Bradman's batting avg and many all rounders have come closer to Sobers as an all rounder. Imran Khan avged 12 less with the ball and only 20 less with the bat putting him statistically 8 runs less valuable player than Khan.
As Age said it wasn't Bradman's role to be an all rounder in the team. That's the beauty of cricket C_C there are different things in case u hadn't noticed. some people bat and some people bowl and some people do both. But to compare someone to Bradman just cos they can do both (one very well and one ok) is just not on.
Hence: Career Batting and fielding averagesandyc said:I fail to see how the bowling of Bodyline was 'amatuer,' and 'several notches below' current bowling.
just because we voted for sobers?Slats4ever said:everyone who's voted for sobers thinks they're the man. they think they come in and have some awesome kind of cricketing knowledge and that they're all genius's.
He's not Australian.Anil said:what do you have against sobers anyway?
It doesnt matter who came close to whom and who didnt. What matters is who has more influence over the game and the answer is Sobers. You cannot be the best batsman from just mastering against one type of bowling and just mastering 3-4 shots. If you are the best batsman, thats because you've displayed the best overall mastery of batting.Slats4ever said:everyone who's voted for sobers thinks they're the man. they think they come in and have some awesome kind of cricketing knowledge and that they're all genius's.
But no one has come close to Bradman's batting avg and many all rounders have come closer to Sobers as an all rounder. Imran Khan avged 12 less with the ball and only 20 less with the bat putting him statistically 8 runs less valuable player than Khan.
As Age said it wasn't Bradman's role to be an all rounder in the team. That's the beauty of cricket C_C there are different things in case u hadn't noticed. some people bat and some people bowl and some people do both. But to compare someone to Bradman just cos they can do both (one very well and one ok) is just not on.
ah..! got it....that is definitely a huge point against sobers...!Dasa said:He's not Australian.
good point! I agreeNeil Pickup said:Basically, what it comes down to is that you've got 20 of the world's greatest ever players lining up on the wall in the schoolyard and you're picking teams.
You've got first pick. Some of us would take Bradman, others Sobers.
There's no right answer, and no amount of posting will ever create one.
word!Dasa said:Geez how arrogant are you? As if your cricketing knowledge is so much better than everyone else that think you can basically insult everyone who doesn't agree with you...
lol!Dasa said:He's not Australian.
He does not keep wicket. The True All Rounder would have to be George Brown of HampshireC_C said:It doesnt matter who came close to whom and who didnt. What matters is who has more influence over the game and the answer is Sobers. You cannot be the best batsman from just mastering against one type of bowling and just mastering 3-4 shots. If you are the best batsman, thats because you've displayed the best overall mastery of batting.
Similarly, you cannot be the best cricketer by being the best batsman or the best bowler, since the best allrounder displays an overall mastery of cricket that the best batsman or the best bowler can only dream of.
another point against sir gary...archie mac said:He does not keep wicket. The True All Rounder would have to be George Brown of Hampshire![]()
Yes but to be honest they are hard to find, he was a true great of the game.Anil said:another point against sir gary...![]()
archie mac said:He does not keep wicket. The True All Rounder would have to be George Brown of Hampshire![]()