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Viv Richards vs Steve Smith

Viv vs Smith

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Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
DrWolverine said:
Not that simple.

Yes Viv had a higher peak in the sense he was dominant and destroyed best bowlers then with ease.

If we use innings 80 innings to classify peak, Sachin scored more runs at a better average.
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Including World Series Cricket, between 1976 and March 1981, Viv Richards made 4,764 runs @ 67 with no minnows whatsoever involved. Having the best tour of modern times in England and Australia, arguably the best series ever by a touring Batsman in Pakistan and having an ATG series against spin in 76. His peer such as Sunil Gavaskar, was also peaking at the same time and was averaging 55 with an imo lighter schedule, Greg Chappell was at 56 and those are two top 10 of all time candidates and mostly considered top 15, a young Allan Border and old Geoffrey Boycott at 48, that's dominance.

Sachin doesn't have a peak like that.
 
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DrWolverine

DrWolverine

International Captain
Like I said before Viv had a higher peak for sure.

But yeah it was for a shorter while and have to include WSC as well which is fair imo.
 
Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
DrWolverine said:
Bedi’s debut.
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almost bowled India to a win in his second game.

DrWolverine said:
Chandra was in 3rd year and played just 7 matches.
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got a tenfer that series, was averaging 30 at start of the series.

DrWolverine said:
By your logic we should take this into account since Murali was playing his 11th match in the 1994 series.
P. S : Murali took 12 wickets in 3 innings.
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Duh, I'm not the one calling out Sachin's SL record, you're calling out Sobers against Pakistan and India. Plus, Sachin faced plenty of worse attacks than what Sobers faced against India early career, 1993 England home series, his 104* in Sri Lanka in 93, hell even 2010 Sri Lanka after Murali was gone and so forth.

Sobers played some great knocks in India against Gupte in his India tour and then toyed with and destroyed the Indian spinners on spin-favouring wickets late in career.
 
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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Johan said:
Including World Series Cricket, between 1976 and March 1981, Viv Richards made 4,764 runs @ 67 with no minnows whatsoever involved. Having the best tour of modern times in England and Australia, arguably the best series ever by a touring Batsman in Pakistan and having an ATG series against spin in 76.

Sachin doesn't have a peak like that.
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Sachins peak between 97 to 2002 averaged 63 and was somewhat close. Faced a lot of worldclass bowlers in the period.

Viv still better.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Johan said:
Including World Series Cricket, between 1976 and March 1981, Viv Richards made 4,764 runs @ 67 with no minnows whatsoever involved. Having the best tour of modern times in England and Australia, arguably the best series ever by a touring Batsman in Pakistan and having an ATG series against spin in 76. His peer such as Sunil Gavaskar, was also peaking at the same time and was averaging 55 with an imo lighter schedule, Greg Chappell was at 56 and those are two top 10 of all time candidates and mostly considered top 15, a young Allan Border and old Geoffrey Boycott at 48, that's dominance.

Sachin doesn't have a peak like that.
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Brilliant
 
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ma1978

International Debutant
The Indian “quartet” was totally useless, so overrated. Also India had no pace bowlers. Achievements against that lot are worthless
 
Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
ma1978 said:
The Indian “quartet” was totally useless, so overrated. Also India had no pace bowlers. Achievements against that lot are worthless
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Mhm, multiple good spin bowlers are useless on spinning wickets, epic.

ma1978 said:
england was a minnow then

India was worse
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between 1976 and 1981, England won 22 games and lost 15, while Australia won 22 and lost 25. England won all three Ashes from 1977-1981. Hmmm, such minnows.

Tendulkar dickriders, smh.
 
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ma1978

International Debutant
Johan said:
Mhm, multiple good spin bowlers are useless on spinning wickets, epic.


between 1976 and 1981, England won 22 games and lost 15, while Australia won 22 and lost 25. England won all three Ashes from 1977-1981. Hmmm, such minnows.

Tendulkar dickriders, smh.
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england, perpetual minnows and grovelers
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Anyways Viv>Smith.

Slightly better peak.

More destructive.

Tougher conditions.

Better peer rating.

The only thing Smith was better at is century conversion and domination against mid to poor attacks.
 
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