Top 5 Australian Fast Bowlers of all time

[Gob]

Starc has been solid since 21/22 Ashes tbf. Incidentally that was the point Cummins took over so there might be an effect from that but the main change was obviously the wobble ball that he developed bowling so he has something to fall back on to when the swing stops conventionally and no reverse on offer. Also credit to him for pulling through tests all this far with all the t20 money he could have made

That being said, there were times before 21/22 where he was god awful at times. As mentioned, his performances were very influential to Aust in both BGTs they lost at home and not in a good way. Him missing out usual coincided with Lyon being ineffective rendering Aust to basically a 2 man attack getting busted.

Overall I don't know where he is. Probably worse than Johnson

 

[GIMH]

McGrath
Lillee
Cummins
Lee
Lindwall

Only point of contention for me is Lee is surely too high. Gillespie was better, no?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Only point of contention for me is Lee is surely too high. Gillespie was better, no?

Lee is barely top 15

Edit: Assuming we're talking about Tests. ODIs Lee is top 2 or 3.

 

[bagapath]

someone didnt vote for McGrath!!!!

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lee is barely top 15

Edit: Assuming we're talking about Tests. ODIs Lee is top 2 or 3.

Didn't made my 20

McGrath
Lillee
Lindwall
Cummins
Davidson
Spofforth
Miller
Johnston
Hazlewood
Turner
Gillespie
Johnson
McDermott
McKenzie
Thomson
Starc
Harris
Reid
Aldermann
Ferris
McDonald

 

[TheJediBrah]

Who is McDonald fr

 

[Thala_0710]

Who is McDonald fr

Only one I can think of is Andrew McDonald, but he's not better than Lee

 

[Johan]

Who is McDonald fr

Australian fast bowler from the interwar period who Bradman paced level with Lindwall and Lillee.

 

[Thala_0710]

Australian fast bowler from the interwar period who Bradman paced level with Lindwall and Lillee.

Edgar McDonald?
He can't be that high up surely?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Edgar McDonald?
He can't be that high up surely?

Ted...... Was Great. Was rated as one of the best Inter War pacers, Great FC record. Don rated him and Lindwall as equally Australia's Greatest.

 

[Gob]

Only point of contention for me is Lee is surely too high. Gillespie was better, no?

Was waiting for someone to take the bait tbh

 

[Thala_0710]

Ted...... Was Great. Was rated as one of the best Inter War pacers, Great FC record. Don rated him and Lindwall as equally Australia's Greatest.

Great FC record true. But I'm not taking that and Don's word to put him top 20 for me. He has a limited 1 year test record, which is poor. And never plays for Australia again. Can't place him above guys like Lee for me.
I wouldn't have Lee top 15 too though. You wouldn't have him top 20 too I'm guessing, even if you remove McDonald (you put up a list of 21, and not 20)

 

[Gob]

Who is McDonald fr

Andrew

 

[capt_Luffy]

Great FC record true. But I'm not taking that and Don's word to put him top 20 for me. He has a limited 1 year test record, which is poor. And never plays for Australia again. Can't place him above guys like Lee for me.
I wouldn't have Lee top 15 too though. You wouldn't have him top 20 too I'm guessing, even if you remove McDonald (you put up a list of 21, and not 20)

Lee himself was mid in Tests except a small peak. And not only Don's words, Ted was compared fondly with the likes of Larwood back then. He and Gregory are ahead for me, probs Hughes as well but that's very debatable.

 

[Johan]

Edgar McDonald?
He can't be that high up surely?

Don rated him very high

Found him one of the bowlers actually difficult to face even for him, very high general reputation. Weird career though, had his breakthrough series in England in 1921 and then immediately stopped playing.

 

[Johan]

Rating Ted McDonald highly is very similar to rating Barry Richards highly imo

 

[Gob]

Lee became better when he remodeled his action around 2004/05 while he was out of the test side. Improved his accuracy while generating good out swing

 

[sayon basak]

Rating Ted McDonald highly is very similar to rating Barry Richards highly imo

You'd need a couple of peers rating him highly for that.

 

[Johan]

You'd need a couple of peers rating him highly for that.

a couple thought he was the greatest bowler ever to bowl fast.

 

[sayon basak]

a couple thought he was the greatest bowler ever to bowl fast.

Post those in the way it is often done for Barry Richards.