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[Jager]

I have a question in relation to Stanley Jackson.

"Regarding his luck in winning the toss in those 1905 Tests and as captain of M.C.C., for whom he scored 85 in a rain-ruined match at Lord's, Jackson said that at Scarborough, when captain for the seventh time against the Australians: I found Darling stripped to the waist. He said, `Now we'll have a proper tossing, and he who gets on top wins the toss.' So I said to George Hirst, `Georgie, you come and toss this time.' Darling then said, `All right, we'll toss in the old-fashioned way!' Again winning the toss, Jackson scored 123 and 31 not out, rain preventing a definite result."

I can only assume they mean wrestling. I am I right or very, very wrong?

 

[marc71178]

Jardine
Russell

 

[Howe_zat]

Would think VVS Laxman's a better bat than De Villiers.

Lower order needs a bit more in this side so I'll get Alec Stewart to keep wicket.

 

[Howe_zat]

I have a question in relation to Stanley Jackson.

"Regarding his luck in winning the toss in those 1905 Tests and as captain of M.C.C., for whom he scored 85 in a rain-ruined match at Lord's, Jackson said that at Scarborough, when captain for the seventh time against the Australians: I found Darling stripped to the waist. He said, `Now we'll have a proper tossing, and he who gets on top wins the toss.' So I said to George Hirst, `Georgie, you come and toss this time.' Darling then said, `All right, we'll toss in the old-fashioned way!' Again winning the toss, Jackson scored 123 and 31 not out, rain preventing a definite result."

I can only assume they mean wrestling. I am I right or very, very wrong?

Dwarf tossing.

 

[Dan]

Stanley Jackson

Jack Russell

 

[kyear2]

Richie Richardson
John Waite

 

[G.I.Joe]

Would think VVS Laxman's a better bat than De Villiers.

Lower order needs a bit more in this side so I'll get Alec Stewart to keep wicket.

Same here please.

 

[Camo999]

Clem Hill

John Waite

 

[watson]

Andrew Flintoff
Alec Stewart

 

[Jacknife]

Flintoff

Stewart

 

[Blakus]

John Waite

Mahela Jayawardene

 

[weldone]

John Waite

Mahela Jayawardene

Very active in the auction draft, eh?

 

[Blakus]

Very active in the auction draft, eh?

I was out the running for 10 days, I want to make up for it.
In any case I've been pushing for both these players for several rounds now. I'm getting the distinct impression that not many rate Jayawardene as high as I do.

 

[Jager]

I was out the running for 10 days, I want to make up for it.
In any case I've been pushing for both these players for several rounds now. I'm getting the distinct impression that not many rate Jayawardene as high as I do.

He's classy for sure, but outside of Sri Lanka he has generally struggled a little. Away average of 40.11. If you take out all the games he has played at the SSC, I think his overall average drops by 7 or 8 runs, which is quite amazing.

 

[weldone]

I'm getting the distinct impression that not many rate Jayawardene as high as I do.

Same here. Over 10k runs @ over 50! People keep saying that he isn't good enough in bouncy and swinging conditions. That might be a reason for keeping him out of top 25 batsmen ever. But that can't be a reason to overlook him even at this stage TBH.

 

[weldone]

He's classy for sure, but outside of Sri Lanka he has generally struggled a little. Away average of 40.11. If you take out all the games he has played at the SSC, I think his overall average drops by 7 or 8 runs, which is quite amazing.

Had that not been the case, he would've been a contender for top 15 batsmen ever. But we're not discussing that now. Are we?

 

[Jager]

Had that not been the case, he would've been a contender for top 15 batsmen ever. But we're not discussing that now. Are we?

No, we aren't, but we are discussing the merits of players someone like a Laxman rates higher in my eyes because he can pull off the impossible.

 

[weldone]

Laxman vs Jayawardene is close I agree. But saying that AB de Villiers has already achieved more than what Jayawardene has done is just not logical in my eyes. I am a huge de Villiers fan, and I think that by the end of his career, AB might overtake Jayawardene. But till now, their careers aren't even comparable IMO. Probably I place more emphasis on longevity than most other CWers do.

 

[Jager]

Laxman vs Jayawardene is close I agree. But saying that AB de Villiers has already achieved more than what Jayawardene has done is just not logical in my eyes. I am a huge de Villiers fan, and I think that by the end of his career, AB might overtake Jayawardene. But till now, their careers aren't even comparable IMO. Probably I place more emphasis on longevity than most other CWers do.

Ah, probably where you and I are different. I am certainly willing to vote for someone like Archie Jackson in the next round instead of Mahela (if it came to a one-on-one) because of his abundant natural talent. That natural talent is why I rate de Villiers so highly, amongst other things. His fielding, unorthodoxy and tempo changes also give him a huge boost for me.

 

[weldone]

Ah, probably where you and I are different. I am certainly willing to vote for someone like Archie Jackson in the next round instead of Mahela (if it came to a one-on-one) because of his abundant natural talent. That natural talent is why I rate de Villiers so highly, amongst other things. His fielding, unorthodoxy and tempo changes also give him a huge boost for me.

Fair enough. You are consistent in your logic. At least you are not claiming that AB has already achieved more than Mahela Jayawardene as a test batsman. You are picking AB on talent, which is fine.