SaeedAnwar
U19 Debutant
If you only count the second innings test batting averages, who has the highest average? also who has the most runs, most centuries batting in second innings????
Minimum qualification: 30 inningsIf you only count the second innings test batting averages, who has the highest average? also who has the most runs, most centuries batting in second innings????
Do you have a full list, or even a top 10/20?Minimum qualification: 30 innings
Highest average: Don Bradman (2299 runs @ 104.50)
Most runs: Allan Border (4,371 runs @ 54.63)
Most centuries: Allan Border, Sunil Gavaskar, Matthew Hayden (11 centuries)
Really interesting to look through. I knew it, but always find it funny how SWaugh averages just 32 in the second innings. He was only good/great in difficult situation in the first innings.
There's no rule whatsoever about whether the first-innings is more or less difficult than the second-innings. Sometimes the first-innings will be much easier, sometimes slightly easier, sometimes there'll be for-all-intents-and-purposes no difference, sometimes the second-innings will be much easier, sometimes slightly easier. And each batsman's case will be different. There is no way any overall record means, well, anything much really.Pretty surprised to see Tendulkar and Lara are that far down on the list and how far up guys like Hayden and Kallis are. What with the whole "difficult conditions" perceptions people have with respect to these batsmen.
Wow, this must be a record of consistent crap in the last few days. Keep goin' mate. Nevermind the fact that most bowlers average considerably better in the 3rd/4th innings than they do in the 1st/2nd innings.There's no rule whatsoever about whether the first-innings is more or less difficult than the second-innings. Sometimes the first-innings will be much easier, sometimes slightly easier, sometimes there'll be for-all-intents-and-purposes no difference, sometimes the second-innings will be much easier, sometimes slightly easier. And each batsman's case will be different. There is no way any overall record means, well, anything much really.
Although he has played down the obvious difficulty of 4th innings batting, generally i think Rich is on point you know.Wow, this must be a record of consistent crap in the last few days. Keep goin' mate.
The fact that it occurs is not what I am disputing, but it still usually is pretty correct to say that bowling gets easier as the pitch ages. This is reflected in bowlers' stats - of which I just checked - especially so for spinners. And going through bowlers, none of them have such a lopsided 1st and 2nd match innings as some batsmen here do.Although he has played down the obvious difficulty of 4th innings batting, generally i think Rich is on point you know.
Two perfect examples to come to mind from AUS test matches over the years that kind of back up his argument are: Antigua 2003 & Perth 2005. Where batting last was clearly easier than batting first in both of these tests.
Well yes generally this is the case indeed. Circumstances like Antigua 03 & Perth 05 dont happen that often.The fact that it occurs is not what I am disputing, but it still usually is pretty correct to say that bowling gets easier as the pitch ages. This is reflected in bowlers' stats - of which I just checked - especially so against spinners. And going through bowlers, none of them have such a lopsided 1st and 2nd match innings as some batsmen here do.
The lopsidedness of Lara's innings record can't be explained away like that - so trying to is a bit dishonest.
Exactly, which is a far stretch from "there is no rule whatsoever...", as Richard tried to argue. Yeh, there may not be, but it's pretty darn consistent regardless.Well yes generally this is the case indeed. Circumstances like Antigua 03 & Perth 05 dont happen that often.
If this even made grammatical sense it'd be a start, but even then it'd still be the same tired cliches over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Try some new material sometime eh?Wow, this must be a record of consistent crap in the last few days. Keep goin' mate.
Yup, never mind indeed. Completely and totally irrelevant, but I'm really not going to bother going into why because some people never listen. Those who will realise will realise already.Nevermind the fact that most bowlers average considerably better in the 3rd/4th innings than they do in the 1st/2nd innings.