tooextracool
International Coach
which in turn means that he isnt using it well enough.Richard said:
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Superior Bowler: Vaas or Gillespie?
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Run like Inzy
U19 12th Man
I feel that although both are good bowlers Vaas is better because of the circumstances uder which he has played. Most of his career has been on the spin friendly wickets in Sri Lanka where he has been overshadowed by Murali. He lacks pace which some would say is needed on those wickets but his variety makes up for it. Gillespie has been a fantastic bowler for Australia but i feel he has been successful due to the success of the team. Vaas has been the only consistent seam bowler Sri Lanka has ever produced and has been the backbone of the attack whereas Gillespie has always been in the company of Lee and Mcgrath who make up for his lean patches in form.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Totally disagree that Dizzy is better on a green top. Look at their respective records in NZ, Vaas has taken his wickets there @ a fraction under 22 (shaving 7 runs a wicket off his career figure) & Dizzy bowled rather averagely in his only series over there (7 wickets @ 45-ish).Richard said:
If you look at Vaas in India his record there is appalling & Indian wickets define "dry, turning, slow pitches". Gillespie, conversely, has thrived there.
As for Gillespie being more economical of late, it rather depends what you mean by "of late". He's been pretty rank over here.
Legglancer
State Regular
Vass reminds me of a slower Wasim Akram the "Sultan Of Swing" 
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
He played half a season and was unimpressive in FC cricket.Richard said:And with the squillions of overseas players these days, many playing just a handful of matches, every one must be expected to do well in all 3 competitions.
If he'd played a whole season then he could be criticised for not doing well in all 3 competitions.
That is not what an overseas player should be, but he's let off as he's someone you rate, so performances matter not one iota.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Regarding Vaas being no good on a green top...
Personally, I haven't seen much of him bowling on one, but he exploited it pretty darn well in Darwin or Cairns (can't remember which one it was, but one of them was a real seamer), getting good hoop and the ball cutting even further once it hit the pitch.
Personally, I haven't seen much of him bowling on one, but he exploited it pretty darn well in Darwin or Cairns (can't remember which one it was, but one of them was a real seamer), getting good hoop and the ball cutting even further once it hit the pitch.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
And in Vaas' series the pitches were green seamers; in Gillespie's they were flat as pancakes.BoyBrumby said:
Look at Gillespie in England in 1997 and 2001 for a better illustration of him on greentops, don't just stereotype.
Sri Lankan pitches are far, far more definitive of the description; Indian pitches are far more often very flat, offering no seam or turn.
One single series - doesn't offset the 5 years between 1999 and 2004\05.
So by "of late" I mean more than just what's happened in England.
Shane Warne
Banned
On current form of the past year, Vaas.
Taking both bowlers at their best I would prefer to have Gillespie at my disposal. I think he had the potential to be the greater bowler.
It's hard to say who will go down with the better legacy because there is a school of thought that the injuries might have taken their toll on Dizzy and he may be on the way out, so time will tell.
Taking both bowlers at their best I would prefer to have Gillespie at my disposal. I think he had the potential to be the greater bowler.
It's hard to say who will go down with the better legacy because there is a school of thought that the injuries might have taken their toll on Dizzy and he may be on the way out, so time will tell.