Shane Watson---the greatest odi player ever?

[Migara]

Well you'll find better ODI cricketers even from Australia than Watson. The obvious choice is Gilchrist. 500 dismissals and we all know about his ODI batting.

 

[smash84]

Why would anyone want to consider Watson as the greatest ODI player of all time?

What is his special achievement?

 

[Cabinet96]

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/49333-cws-50-best-odi-cricketers-all-time-countdown-12.html#post2460105

44th best ever just over a year ago.

Wow, Nufan. Just gave that thread a browse through, great work.

 

[NUFAN]

Wow, Nufan. Just gave that thread a browse through, great work.

Thanks Cab, I think we are just about due another one. Perhaps in Tests matches. The Sean's was epic a few summers back, it would be cool if someone organized it.

Anyway, Watson really needs to open in ODI's for Australia to get the best out of his batting..

 

[NasserFan207]

You said he doesn't bowl enough per match and overall hasn't played enough. That's why I assumed as such.

Kallis isn't better for me, sample or not. He's simply not as good so relying on his aggregates is besides the point. It is like saying Walsh is better than Steyn because he took more wickets and played more games when even at this stage I'd give the nod to Dale.

Watson IMO is like Gilchrist. Even half-way through his career he was lauded and was being included into ATG teams and the favourite for his position. He was simply too good, all things being considered, to those comparable with him. That's how I see Watson: his batting is on par with greats of the game not named Viv, Bevan and Tendulkar, and his bowling is a fantastic supplement whenever he doesn't score runs. Actually, it is fantastic anyway. To depict it somewhat; the guy strikes as fast as Wasim in ODIs, albeit he is more expensive. Such a player brings too much to the game to be ignored IMO. As I said, I agree with you re him being the greatest overall...that argument is pretty far away at the moment. But it is when you brought up Kallis I disagreed. I think even at this stage only Klusener is really his rival as the greatest ODI all-rounder.

Just no. Not much else to say really

As for his bowling, its fantastic ATM, but not for large parts of his career, and maybe not in the future.

 

[smash84]

Thanks Cab, I think we are just about due another one. Perhaps in Tests matches. The Sean's was epic a few summers back, it would be cool if someone organized it.

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The ODI one was awesome NUFAN.

why don't you have a go at the test one too?

 

[NUFAN]

Cheers Smali. I'm just a bit time restricted at the moment. I'll take part, but don't want to do all the work.

 

[benchmark00]

Lazy ****.

 

[Prince EWS]

Gun? Yes.

GOAT? Surely not yet!

Would take him over Veri tbh.

 

[Spikey]

oh and the GOAT probably isn't useless in the 1st innings of a match.

 

[morgieb]

Would take him over Veri tbh.

Gold.

 

[Cricketismylife]

Why would anyone want to consider Watson as the greatest ODI player of all time?

What is his special achievement?

Maybe not atm, but definitely he has a chance to be there in a few years time. Again under pressure in the CB series finals, he delivered with the ball, 7 overs 2-13. He has very healthy record with both bat and ball and delivers under pressure. If you dont consider him even valid for this argument, then at least give some names of players who clearly are better than him. Apart from Shaun Pollock, Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Gilchrist and a few others, I can't find many who could compete with his achievements.

 

[uvelocity]

I can't find many who could compete with his achievements.

I like the ****, but there are many who have done more in a single discipline, much more, than what watto has done with two.

Very good for team balance of course.

 

[smash84]

. Apart from Shaun Pollock, Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Gilchrist and a few others, I can't find many who could compete with his achievements.

Please read below uvelocity below

I like the ****, but there are many who have done more in a single discipline, much more, than what watto has done with two.

Very good for team balance of course.

I'll also list out a few

Wasim, McGrath, Saqlain, Tendy, Bevan, Ponting, Klusener, Inzy, Anwar, Jjayasuriya and this is the tip of the ice berg.

 

[uvelocity]

what are you on about smiley

 

[smash84]

in essence I am agreeing with you and going a step further by naming out those who have achieved much more in ODI games therefore WAtto is a far cry from being the best ODI player ever