Richard
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That article in your opening post is dated TNN 13 October 2009, 10:11pm IST.
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Ponting better than Sachin : Ian Chappell
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That article in your opening post is dated TNN 13 October 2009, 10:11pm IST.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Both still miles better than the next guy in line.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
wow... And Hussey better than Greg Chappell and Kambli better than Border...
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
A tale of two batsmen | Cricket Features | India v Australia 2009/10 | Cricinfo.com
Article on the two greats.
Article on the two greats.
Dissector
International Debutant
Andy Ganteaume is the greatest of them all.wow... And Hussey better than Greg Chappell and Kambli better than Border...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
No, Norman Callaway is clearly better.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Surprised you think so, since he was dropped five times in that innings.
Callaway could be termed the Andy Ganteaume of FC cricket, though the reasons for his only playing a single match are much more tragic. Given he was just 18 when he played that one and only knock, it's fair to say that his future was very bright indeed.
bagapath
International Captain
not really... he was dropped at 38, 69, 112, 145, 187 and was dismissed at 207.
his average should be 207/6 = 34.5 which looks more accurate considering his actual scores would have been 38, 31, 43, 33, 42 and 20 had the catches been taken. it is actually silly to ignore such missed opportunities and give him the title of "the greatest batsman of all time" because he clearly did not score 207 runs in one innings; he needed six.
as for the original point under discussion... kambli being better than viv richards/allan border/sunil gavaskar and denis compton is clearly a case for judging batsmen purely based on average alone. it is a water tight argument.
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm aware of all of that. The precise point I was making is that the scorebook in itself is an unreliable means of judging a batsman. Dropped catches being one of the biggest reasons why.
Each of these posts was entirely ironic \ sarcastic, whicher way you look at it. Each meant the opposite of what it stated.
wow... And Hussey better than Greg Chappell and Kambli better than Border...
Andy Ganteaume is the greatest of them all.
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Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
That is amazing (admittedly the amazing part is of no relevance to anyone else
)I had a Great Uncle who went to Australia with his foster parents in 1899 and died in the same battle as Norman Callaway two days later at the age of 31.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Wow, that's both very sad and quite incredible.That is amazing (admittedly the amazing part is of no relevance to anyone else
I had a Great Uncle who went to Australia with his foster parents in 1899 and died in the same battle as Norman Callaway two days later at the age of 31.
Streetwise
Banned
Some interesting facts in the Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting debate.
Player scoring ducks per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player dismissed for 10 runs or less per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player dismissed for 10 runs or less LBW per innings
1. Tendulkar
2. Lara
3. Ponting
Player dismissed out for 20 runs or less per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player scoring 50 runs or more per innings
1. Ponting
2. Tendulkar
3. Lara
Player scoring ducks per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player dismissed for 10 runs or less per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player dismissed for 10 runs or less LBW per innings
1. Tendulkar
2. Lara
3. Ponting
Player dismissed out for 20 runs or less per innings
1. Lara
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
Player scoring 50 runs or more per innings
1. Ponting
2. Tendulkar
3. Lara
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Ah! In the midst of your crap posting you accidentally stumbled upon a very interesting stat there.
Streetwise
Banned
Actually it says more about you, I have known this for a long time and have posted it on other forums, It is posters like yourself who dont know the facts that post crap.
Streetwise
Banned
Some more interesting facts.
When Ponting started playing for Australia 8th December 1995,
Tendulkars record at the time was:
Batting average against South Africa 33.6
Batting average against Pakistan 35.8
He had never faced Ambrose and had never played a test match in the West Indies.
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OK moving on from here lets look at the period between 8th December 1995 and 1st Jan 2001
In this period Tendulkar averaged against
South Africa 34
Pakistan 30
West Indies 57
Ponting in the same period averaged
South Arica 49
Pakistan 63
West Indies 37
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Posters like to talk about quality bowling and I selected these stats because they include the likes of Donald, Ambrose, Akram, Walsh and Younis.
Ponting is every bit equal to Tendulkar when it comes to facing Quality bowling.
When Ponting started playing for Australia 8th December 1995,
Tendulkars record at the time was:
Batting average against South Africa 33.6
Batting average against Pakistan 35.8
He had never faced Ambrose and had never played a test match in the West Indies.
________________________________________________________________________
OK moving on from here lets look at the period between 8th December 1995 and 1st Jan 2001
In this period Tendulkar averaged against
South Africa 34
Pakistan 30
West Indies 57
Ponting in the same period averaged
South Arica 49
Pakistan 63
West Indies 37
________________________________________________________________________
Posters like to talk about quality bowling and I selected these stats because they include the likes of Donald, Ambrose, Akram, Walsh and Younis.
Ponting is every bit equal to Tendulkar when it comes to facing Quality bowling.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Player who never faced Mcgrath and Warne in a Test match ?
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Yet in the same period Tendulkar averaged 61.45 and Ponting averaged 46.34 Wow that is a difference of 15. Since Ponting did as well as Tendulkar/Lara against Quality bowling he must have done horrible against inferior bowling so have that difference in overall average during that period, No ?