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Pietersen 2nd to Bradman?

aussie tragic

International Vice-Captain
I don’t know about anyone else, however I found it incredible that Keven Pietersen is 2nd to Bradman for most runs after 25 tests.

Then I realised it’s because he played more innings than the greats being mentioned, so a more equal comparison would be to use his 47 innings, which pushes him down the list a little (he’s still in pretty esteemed company though):

1. Don Bradman: 3982 runs @ 90.50, 15 centuries, 7 fifties
2. Everton Weekes: 2915 runs @ 64.77, 10 centuries, 13 fifties
3. Herb Sutcliffe: 2738 runs @ 62.22, 10 centuries, 13 fifties
4. Neil Harvey: 2620 runs @ 60.93, 11 centuries, 9 fifties
5. Denis Compton: 2526 runs @ 63.15, 10 centuries, 11 fifties
6. Wally Hammond: 2512 runs @ 59.80, 8 centuries, 10 fifties
7. Virenda Sehwag: 2502 runs @ 54.39, 8 centuries, 8 fifties
8. Viv Richards: 2500 runs @ 55.55, 8 centuries, 8 fifties
9. Brian Lara: 2465 runs @ 54.77, 4 centuries, 15 fifties
10. Kevin Pietersen: 2448 runs @ 54.40, 8 centuries, 9 fifties

11. Gary Sobers: 2439 runs @ 60.97, 7 centuries, 7 fifties
12. Doug Walters: 2439 runs @ 56.72, 8 centuries, 15 fifties
13. Graeme Smith: 2434 runs @ 55.31, 7 centuries, 7 fifties
14. Jack Hobbs: 2421 runs @ 57.64, 5 centuries, 16 fifties
15. Clyde Walcott: 2363 runs @ 56.26, 10 centuries, 8 fifties
16. Frank Worrell: 2341 runs @ 54.44, 7 centuries, 10 fifties
17. Dudley Nourse: 2290 runs @ 57.25, 7 centuries, 11 fifties
18. Len Hutton: 2284 runs @ 54.38, 7 centuries, 7 fifties
19. Rahul Dravid: 2282 runs @ 53.20, 4 centuries, 16 fifties
20. Javed Miandad: 2252 runs @ 62.55, 6 centuries, 12 fifties

21. Ken Barrington: 2252 runs @ 53.61, 6 centuries, 13 fifties
22. Adam Gilchrist: 2248 runs @ 59.15, 6 centuries, 12 fifties
23. Sunil Gavaskar: 2242 runs @ 53.38, 9 centuries, 11 fifties
24. Greg Chappell: 2161 runs @ 52.70, 7 centuries, 11 fifties
25. Sachin Tendulkar: 2142 runs @ 51.00, 7 centuries, 11 fifties
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I've always said number of innings is a far fairer way of looking at things than number of games.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Heh heh, Virenda Sehwag. Hussey should be right up there, when he gets his 47 too.
 
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aussie tragic

International Vice-Captain
Heh heh, Virenda Sehwag.
Here’s the list for most runs after 50 Innings (btw, Sehwag has dropped quickly to 15th):

1. Don Bradman: 4490 runs @ 95.53, 17 centuries, 7 fifties
2. Herb Sutcliffe: 2960 runs @ 64.34, 12 centuries, 13 fifties
3. Everton Weekes: 2938 runs @ 61.20, 10 centuries, 13 fifties
4. Brian Lara: 2849 runs @ 59.35, 6 centuries, 16 fifties
5. Viv Richards: 2812 runs @ 58.58, 9 centuries, 10 fifties
6. Neil Harvey: 2761 runs @ 60.02, 11 centuries, 10 fifties
7. Denis Compton: 2692 runs @ 64.09, 11 centuries, 12 fifties
8. Wally Hammond: 2665 runs @ 60.56, 9 centuries, 10 fifties
9. Clyde Walcott: 2638 runs @ 58.62, 12 centuries, 8 fifties
10. Gary Sobers: 2617 runs @ 60.86, 8 centuries, 7 fifties

11. Graeme Smith: 2560 runs @ 54.46, 7 centuries, 9 fifties
12. Rahul Dravid: 2540 runs @ 55.21, 6 centuries, 16 fifties
13. Doug Walters: 2536 runs @ 56.35, 8 centuries, 16 fifties
14. Dudley Nourse: 2535 runs @ 58.95, 8 centuries, 13 fifties
15. Virenda Sehwag: 2535 runs @ 51.73, 8 centuries, 8 fifties
16. Jack Hobbs: 2514 runs @ 57.13, 5 centuries, 16 fifties
17. Frank Worrell: 2434 runs @ 52.91, 7 centuries, 11 fifties
18. Javed Miandad: 2419 runs @ 63.65, 7 centuries, 12 fifties
19. Sachin Tendulkar: 2415 runs @ 53.66, 8 centuries, 12 fifties
20. Len Hutton: 2403 runs @ 53.40, 7 centuries, 9 fifties

21. Adam Gilchrist: 2342 runs @ 58.55, 6 centuries, 13 fifties
22. Sunil Gavaskar: 2337 runs @ 51.93, 9 centuries, 12 fifties
23. Greg Chappell: 2328 runs @ 52.90, 8 centuries, 11 fifties
24. Matthew Hayden: 2326 runs @ 50.56, 8 centuries, 9 fifties
25. Ken Barrington: 2303 runs @ 52.34, 6 centuries, 14 fifties

So Pietersen needs 170 runs in his next 3 innings to stay in the top 10; or 87 runs to be equal with Sehwag :ph34r:
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
He's had an unbelievable start to his career, but Richard's right, clearly # of innings should be the criteria, not tests. Its just more logical.

Dravid's amazing start to his test career is often forgotten as well. I noticed that whilst reading the cricinfo article yesterday.
 

aussie tragic

International Vice-Captain
Dravid's amazing start to his test career is often forgotten as well. I noticed that whilst reading the cricinfo article yesterday.
Imagine his record if he could have converted more of his fifties to centuries (16 fifties to 6 hundreds after 50 innings).....although Lara, Hobbs & Gilchrist have similar poor conversion rates after 50 innings.....
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Dravid's amazing start to his test career is often forgotten as well. I noticed that whilst reading the cricinfo article yesterday.
And his was even more remarkable considering some of the bowling he faced... weren't many others making such starts around that time.
 

Nishant

International 12th Man
quite an interesting list that! Lol at the fact that sehwag is up there.

The list shows how good a player KP actually is.
 

Piper

International Captain
I've always said number of innings is a far fairer way of looking at things than number of games.
Agreed! Sometimes they may not play (depending where they are in the batting order).. So you may only bat once in a match. So.. taking in number of innings would be a lot fairer and more truthful too.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
KPs doing well, whichever way you look at it, after all a farlly large proportion of his career has been against a great Australian side.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think that when KP scored his double century it was the first instance of him only batting once in a Test match. Quite clearly it shows how number of innings and not number of games should be the criteria.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha. Not quite. He's done it on two occasions before now, but yes, 47 innings in 25 Tests is far more than most could expect to get.

A bit surprising, too, perhaps, given that his team has generally been the better one in that time.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Haha. Not quite. He's done it on two occasions before now, but yes, 47 innings in 25 Tests is far more than most could expect to get.

A bit surprising, too, perhaps, given that his team has generally been the better one in that time.
I must have misread the article then, but thanks for correcting me.
 

Clarence

U19 Cricketer
Agreed! Sometimes they may not play (depending where they are in the batting order).. So you may only bat once in a match. So.. taking in number of innings would be a lot fairer and more truthful too.
I wouldn't of guessed that would be the reason that more innings would be a better method. Thanks for that.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Haha, WTF?
He didn't understand why the number of innings would be a more effective way of judging somebody than the number of games they have played. Then Piper explained it to him and he understood.
 

pasag

RTDAS
He didn't understand why the number of innings would be a more effective way of judging somebody than the number of games they have played. Then Piper explained it to him and he understood.
Nah, he was being spiteful.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Yep, what Gelman said. Seemed a spiteful post to me, totally unneccessary and rather out-of-the-blue, hence the "WTF?"
 
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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
I've always said number of innings is a far fairer way of looking at things than number of games.
Thats right. PLUS number of runs should not be taken by itself. The average is very important too.
 

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