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***Official*** New Zealand in Zimbabwe & Zimbabwe/New Zealand/India ODI Tri-Series
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Loony BoB
International Captain
Not sure if anyone's already answered this, but Michael Bates played for Auckland. 1 game, 1 innings, 1 run, 1 not out, high score? Why, 1* of course. Also bowled 36 balls for 21 runs and no wicket.bondshanebond said:
http://content.cricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/36590.html
tooextracool
International Coach
he played in the recent series against SA though, and i think hes been playing domestic cricket in zimbabwe recently.social said:
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Blignaut played one game for Tassie early in the season. He got absolutely hammered, then got dropped and was never brought back into the side. He went back to Zimbabwe, and made his test return with Heath Streak against South Africa. He also played out the rest of the Logan Cup. His bowling figures werent impressive at all, but he got some good scores with the bat.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Yes, Harare is about 1000m above sea level, not as high as many South African grounds, but high enough to get a meter or two onto the ball with a big shotKippax said:
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I pick NZL to win the tri series.
Right arm fast
State Vice-Captain
The way the kiwis are playing at the moment im picking them to win
cricket player
International Debutant
India will win
cricket player
International Debutant
I Think they will win because they will make a good come back after a poor series in sri lanka.Blaze said:
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
As an India supporter, I would like to see a fresh, new team picked similar in make-up to the Kiwi/English side, with Tendulkar, Dravid and Sehwag guiding the new bunch. A pity Ganguly has been re-appointed as captain, but here's my choice-
- Sehwag
- Gambhir/Amit Pagnis(South Africans will remember him)
- Yuvraj
- Kaif
- Dhoni (WK, striker)
- Dravid (c)
- JP Yadav (vc, RM-new, striker)
- Bangar (RMF-change, striker)/Vidyut (SLA, striker)
- Harbhajan (OB)
- Zaheer (LFM-new)/VR Singh (RFM-new)
- Nehra (LFM-change)
Chubb
International Regular
Phil's in trouble....
Zimbabwe prepare to fire Simmons
Cricinfo staff
August 12, 2005
Phil Simmons, Zimbabwe's coach, is on the verge of being fired, according to sources close to the national side.
Simmons was already under pressure before the recent two-day humiliation by New Zealand. He had been publicly criticised by a selector following the Test and ODI series losses in Bangladesh earlier in the year.
A report in today's Zimbabwe Independent suggested that the Zimbabwe board had already sounded out possible replacements, with Sandeep Patil, who took Kenya to the semi-finals of the 2003 World Cup, among the frontrunners, although Ozias Bvute, the board's managing director, denied the claims.
Bvute did, however, admit that there was a thorough review of the performance in the Harare Test being undertaken. "It's obviously important that we introspect to enable us to do better," he told the paper. "Our intention is never to go into a match with the desire to lose.
"We shall look into consulting widely to ensure all our structures are adequately improved so that our performance reaches the expectations of our fans and spectators alike."
But an unnamed source said that Simmons' time had run out. "Phil is finding it difficult to get the message across to the players," the source said. "He has not added any value to the team at all and, actually, the young players have got worse since he took over. We need someone with good work ethics, and we certainly need to find a better coach from somewhere. Phil is a good coach, but Zimbabwe Cricket overrated his ability, and he has been found wanting at this level of cricket. It seems that he cannot identify the problem with the team. "
In Simmons' defence, coaching the Zimbabwe national side is an unenviable job with most of the decent players either having retired or moved abroad, and the majority of the remainder just not being good enough. It is hard to see who would want the role. The best prospect would be a former player, but most of those with the credentials are abroad with little desire to return under the current political regime.
Dean du Plessis, a local commentator, said that Simmons was just too nice. "He doesn't have hardness to coach at Test level," he told the Independent. "He's a happy sort of guy, a gentle giant. He likes to socialise with everyone. There is nothing wrong with that, but that is one of his major weaknesses. He lacks the ability to discipline his players. He has simply not adjusted well as a Test coach."
That view was supported by an editorial in the same paper. "Phil Simmons is not good enough to coach a nascent Test side like Zimbabwe," it said. "The gentle giant is not only too soft for the job but has clearly failed to inspire confidence into the players. "While the dissonance between players in camp may be a result of the rebel saga as well as age and social differences, Simmons has failed to harmonise relations and to instil discipline among the cricketers."
And it warned that it was not just Simmons in the firing line. "The whole technical set-up should be reviewed - from provincial to national level." Zimbabwe cricket desperately needs to turn round it fortunes, but in the meantime it also needs a scapegoat. Simmons is likely to be that person.
Poor guy... who the hell would want to do a job like that?
I do feel sorry for him because I doubt Buchanan, Fletcher or Woolmer could do any better with that side. However the bit about socialising probably is true, he went out to nightclubs with Brendan Taylor during the SA series, and Brendan was banned because of continued behaviour like that. I don't know why they sacked Geoff Marsh in the first place, he was doing a great job. It just sums up what a mess the ZC is in.
Zimbabwe prepare to fire Simmons
Cricinfo staff
August 12, 2005
Phil Simmons, Zimbabwe's coach, is on the verge of being fired, according to sources close to the national side.
Simmons was already under pressure before the recent two-day humiliation by New Zealand. He had been publicly criticised by a selector following the Test and ODI series losses in Bangladesh earlier in the year.
A report in today's Zimbabwe Independent suggested that the Zimbabwe board had already sounded out possible replacements, with Sandeep Patil, who took Kenya to the semi-finals of the 2003 World Cup, among the frontrunners, although Ozias Bvute, the board's managing director, denied the claims.
Bvute did, however, admit that there was a thorough review of the performance in the Harare Test being undertaken. "It's obviously important that we introspect to enable us to do better," he told the paper. "Our intention is never to go into a match with the desire to lose.
"We shall look into consulting widely to ensure all our structures are adequately improved so that our performance reaches the expectations of our fans and spectators alike."
But an unnamed source said that Simmons' time had run out. "Phil is finding it difficult to get the message across to the players," the source said. "He has not added any value to the team at all and, actually, the young players have got worse since he took over. We need someone with good work ethics, and we certainly need to find a better coach from somewhere. Phil is a good coach, but Zimbabwe Cricket overrated his ability, and he has been found wanting at this level of cricket. It seems that he cannot identify the problem with the team. "
In Simmons' defence, coaching the Zimbabwe national side is an unenviable job with most of the decent players either having retired or moved abroad, and the majority of the remainder just not being good enough. It is hard to see who would want the role. The best prospect would be a former player, but most of those with the credentials are abroad with little desire to return under the current political regime.
Dean du Plessis, a local commentator, said that Simmons was just too nice. "He doesn't have hardness to coach at Test level," he told the Independent. "He's a happy sort of guy, a gentle giant. He likes to socialise with everyone. There is nothing wrong with that, but that is one of his major weaknesses. He lacks the ability to discipline his players. He has simply not adjusted well as a Test coach."
That view was supported by an editorial in the same paper. "Phil Simmons is not good enough to coach a nascent Test side like Zimbabwe," it said. "The gentle giant is not only too soft for the job but has clearly failed to inspire confidence into the players. "While the dissonance between players in camp may be a result of the rebel saga as well as age and social differences, Simmons has failed to harmonise relations and to instil discipline among the cricketers."
And it warned that it was not just Simmons in the firing line. "The whole technical set-up should be reviewed - from provincial to national level." Zimbabwe cricket desperately needs to turn round it fortunes, but in the meantime it also needs a scapegoat. Simmons is likely to be that person.
Poor guy... who the hell would want to do a job like that?
I do feel sorry for him because I doubt Buchanan, Fletcher or Woolmer could do any better with that side. However the bit about socialising probably is true, he went out to nightclubs with Brendan Taylor during the SA series, and Brendan was banned because of continued behaviour like that. I don't know why they sacked Geoff Marsh in the first place, he was doing a great job. It just sums up what a mess the ZC is in.
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Chubb
International Regular
Jesus... reading this as well, It's descending into chaos.
Zimbabwe board defend right to Test status
Cricinfo staff
August 12, 2005
Ozias Bvute, has defended Zimbabwe's right to retain their Test status in the face of calls from across the world for them to be stripped of it following their two-day humiliation in the first Test at Harare Sports Club.
Bvute, Zimbabwe Cricket's managing director, said that although the result had been "disappointing", the country's future status "should not be on the basis of a bad result."
"The basis of any form of improvement is exposure, so it would be totally wrong to exclude us from any form of competition," he continued. "We feel that through exposure we shall improve. Rome was not built in a day. We are, however, confident that the team will do better in the next Test and other assignments to come. The 11 that were selected to represent the country were the best Zimbabwe could field, and we still have faith in them."
While Bvute's comments are bullish in the face of such overwhelming criticism, even the firmly controlled domestic press inside Zimbabwe appear finally to have had enough. On Tuesday, Lawrence Moyo, the country's Cricket Writer of the Year for the last three years, wrote a stinging attack on the performance against New Zealand.
And in today's Zimbabwe Independent, Darlington Majonga delivered perhaps the most vociferous broadside yet against the way the game is being run. "Slaughtered they were, and the cricketers we thought were the best at Zimbabwe's disposal seemed to have connived to discomfit all those who literally went hoarse defending the country's Test status after a couple of forgettable outings that were deemed harmful to the integrity of premier cricket," he wrote. "Dubious footwork, atrocious shot selection, inconsistent bowling and poor fielding combined to skid Zimbabwe to an unimaginable nadir in their 13-year flirtation with elite cricket."
Those comments were at odds with Bvute's implication that the result was a one-off that could be dismissed as disappointing. There have been too many similar one-offs for that, and unless New Zealand are too bored to bother, there is no reason that the Bulawayo Test next week will be any different.
Itai Dzamara, a former cricket reporter, blamed the ZC board for the embarassment. "It is all a result of the leadership crisis that rocked the game last year," he said. "The architects of that madness are still up and about, in charge of the gentlemen's game, never mind the so-called return of the rebels. It's the other side of the same coin".
Perhaps the widespread apathy inside Zimbabwe to the game was more telling than any spin. "It's sad when spectator apathy hits the wonderful game of cricket," Majonga continued, "and it's tantamount to treachery to the millions who follow the game religiously when they are subjected to mismatches that mock their passion."
Although the ICC continues to maintain that the way to help Zimbabwe is to support rather than punish them, feedback to Cricinfo in response to an article calling on the ICC to step in was overwhelmingly of the opinion that enough is enough. In 2004, Ehsan Mani, the ICC's president, stressed the need for the ICC to protect the integrity of international cricket. It is that integrity which is now being widely questioned.
The last word goes to Majonga. "It's a lot that needs to be done to not only save Zimbabwe's Test status, but to ensure the country becomes successful on the international scene. And Peter Chingoka knows it as well. Otherwise the mess we witnessed this week is a serious indictment of the Zimbabwe Cricket leadership, though the 11 men who embarrassed us should do some serious soul-searching.
"If the Zimbabwe Cricket and the players themselves have any conscience, they should know that Zimbabweans and world cricket don't deserve this."
What a load of rubbish from Bvute, the Harare match was the second two-dayer in three Tests. it wasn't a one-off. he's a total imbecile anyway.
I think Majonga is very harsh on the players who I'm sure did the best they could. it's not their fault they aren't good enough, it ignores the bowling effort on the first morning and also ignores the fine Test records of Carlisle, Streak, and Masakadza. I'm sure they'll do better next time, but it will only be relative to the Harare Massacre.
Zimbabwe board defend right to Test status
Cricinfo staff
August 12, 2005
Ozias Bvute, has defended Zimbabwe's right to retain their Test status in the face of calls from across the world for them to be stripped of it following their two-day humiliation in the first Test at Harare Sports Club.
Bvute, Zimbabwe Cricket's managing director, said that although the result had been "disappointing", the country's future status "should not be on the basis of a bad result."
"The basis of any form of improvement is exposure, so it would be totally wrong to exclude us from any form of competition," he continued. "We feel that through exposure we shall improve. Rome was not built in a day. We are, however, confident that the team will do better in the next Test and other assignments to come. The 11 that were selected to represent the country were the best Zimbabwe could field, and we still have faith in them."
While Bvute's comments are bullish in the face of such overwhelming criticism, even the firmly controlled domestic press inside Zimbabwe appear finally to have had enough. On Tuesday, Lawrence Moyo, the country's Cricket Writer of the Year for the last three years, wrote a stinging attack on the performance against New Zealand.
And in today's Zimbabwe Independent, Darlington Majonga delivered perhaps the most vociferous broadside yet against the way the game is being run. "Slaughtered they were, and the cricketers we thought were the best at Zimbabwe's disposal seemed to have connived to discomfit all those who literally went hoarse defending the country's Test status after a couple of forgettable outings that were deemed harmful to the integrity of premier cricket," he wrote. "Dubious footwork, atrocious shot selection, inconsistent bowling and poor fielding combined to skid Zimbabwe to an unimaginable nadir in their 13-year flirtation with elite cricket."
Those comments were at odds with Bvute's implication that the result was a one-off that could be dismissed as disappointing. There have been too many similar one-offs for that, and unless New Zealand are too bored to bother, there is no reason that the Bulawayo Test next week will be any different.
Itai Dzamara, a former cricket reporter, blamed the ZC board for the embarassment. "It is all a result of the leadership crisis that rocked the game last year," he said. "The architects of that madness are still up and about, in charge of the gentlemen's game, never mind the so-called return of the rebels. It's the other side of the same coin".
Perhaps the widespread apathy inside Zimbabwe to the game was more telling than any spin. "It's sad when spectator apathy hits the wonderful game of cricket," Majonga continued, "and it's tantamount to treachery to the millions who follow the game religiously when they are subjected to mismatches that mock their passion."
Although the ICC continues to maintain that the way to help Zimbabwe is to support rather than punish them, feedback to Cricinfo in response to an article calling on the ICC to step in was overwhelmingly of the opinion that enough is enough. In 2004, Ehsan Mani, the ICC's president, stressed the need for the ICC to protect the integrity of international cricket. It is that integrity which is now being widely questioned.
The last word goes to Majonga. "It's a lot that needs to be done to not only save Zimbabwe's Test status, but to ensure the country becomes successful on the international scene. And Peter Chingoka knows it as well. Otherwise the mess we witnessed this week is a serious indictment of the Zimbabwe Cricket leadership, though the 11 men who embarrassed us should do some serious soul-searching.
"If the Zimbabwe Cricket and the players themselves have any conscience, they should know that Zimbabweans and world cricket don't deserve this."
What a load of rubbish from Bvute, the Harare match was the second two-dayer in three Tests. it wasn't a one-off. he's a total imbecile anyway.
I think Majonga is very harsh on the players who I'm sure did the best they could. it's not their fault they aren't good enough, it ignores the bowling effort on the first morning and also ignores the fine Test records of Carlisle, Streak, and Masakadza. I'm sure they'll do better next time, but it will only be relative to the Harare Massacre.
AndrewM
U19 12th Man
There is word from Bracewell that Oram should be pretty much 100% fit by the time the tri-series kicks off. He will slot back in... but who gets the drop?Arjun said:
I can't wait to discuss the team line-ups when it gets closer..its probably a bit early to discuss it yet. There is a test to play.. hopefully at least three days of it.
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