***Official New Zealand in India Nov-Dec 2021 Thread***

[_Ed_]

Damn. Well, at least the controversy around the stumping appeal won't come to anything now.

 

[Athlai]

Yeah looked only a matter of time.

 

[Meridio]

uh oh

 

[Zinzan]

I'm sorry, you deserve a lot of criticism for coming out and playing for the draw when you have 9 wickets in hand and a required run rate of 3.

It really is one of those wickets that you can survive on with tight defense and playing late, but is high risk when attacking good spinners.

Anyway, Taylor gone. Do we have permission do play for a draw yet lol?

 

[hendrix]

Ross was never going to be capable of blocking things out. Really would have been nice to put the bowlers under even a modicum of pressure.

 

[Moss]

Happy for Ross to prove me wrong in Mumbai but on the evidence of his last 3 subcontinent tours, NZ should never have played him as a no4 batsman on this tour.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Big wicket. Perhaps Somerville to bat 4 in the 2nd test instead of Rosco.

 

[nzfan]

The target is technically 280 in 80 overs given the light. That's over 3 rpo on 5th day pitch. Don't think it was never on.

I thought we were going to shake hands an hour into tea and walk away but Taylor gets out.

 

[straw man]

Very unsurprising way for Taylor to go. NZ need Williamson to bat probably 20 overs of the final session to survive.

 

[Hurricane2]

I'm sorry, you deserve a lot of criticism for coming out and playing for the draw when you have 8 wickets in hand and a required run rate of 3.

It’s not the run rate it is the 285 needed that is too much
Blame India for too safe a declaration and killing the game
They should have given us 240 or maybe 250 at most to chase
Virat kohli is a better captain than Rahane and would have set a better target

 

[morgieb]

Taylor probably should've tried to put some pressure back on the bowlers, now with only two possible results that eases things up significantly for Indian bowlers unless New Zealand go full Vihari/Ashwin (maybe possible?)

 

[eroticfishcake]

A draw is a good result for visiting teams in India

 

[honestbharani]

They are definitely not going to go for it unless its like KJ and another bowler left and they have better chance surviving by playing shots than blocking.

 

[hendrix]

It really is one of those wickets that you can survive on with tight defense and playing late, but is high risk when attacking good spinners.

Don't really agree. Both Shreyas Iyer and Will Young scored runs by punishing the bad balls.

Look I don't think we could have chased this anyway but I think it would have been good to put the bowlers under some pressure, particularly in the first innings but also e.g. from Ross Taylor today who was never going to be capable of just blocking things out.

 

[hendrix]

They are definitely not going to go for it unless its like KJ and another bowler left and they have better chance surviving by playing shots than blocking.

Everyone barring Latham and Williamson has a better chance of surviving by playing shots (within reason).

 

[Frost]

Damn I predicted a nz 2-0 series win, there's go that idea. Ohwell hopefully 1-0

 

[Burner]

It’s not the run rate it is the 285 needed that is too much
Blame India for too safe a declaration and killing the game
They should have given us 240 or maybe 250 at most to chase
Virat kohli is a better captain than Rahane and would have set a better target

Lol. Only an absolute spud would have declared at 240. And Kohli would have set a bigger target if anything.

 

[straw man]

Look I don't think we could have chased this anyway but I think it would have been good to put the bowlers under some pressure, particularly in the first innings but also e.g. from Ross Taylor today who was never going to be capable of just blocking things out.

Yes I think our chance of chasing this score today was approximately zero, because India could always fall back to defensive bowling and fields to make scoring very difficult. However there was value in playing shots and scoring runs to push India into that, which improves the chance of a draw.

 

[nzfan]

Don't really agree. Both Shreyas Iyer and Will Young scored runs by punishing the bad balls.

Look I don't think we could have chased this anyway but I think it would have been good to put the bowlers under some pressure, particularly in the first innings but also e.g. from Ross Taylor today who was never going to be capable of just blocking things out.

First inning yes, don't know why we shut shop unnecessarily. That's where we lost momentum.

 

[Moss]

Taylor probably should've tried to put some pressure back on the bowlers, now with only two possible results that eases things up significantly for Indian bowlers unless New Zealand go full Vihari/Ashwin (maybe possible?)

Agreed, blocking vs spin never has worked for him. Would have been super useful if he got some quick runs.