*Official* England in NZ 2023

[Burgey]

That's the sickening part of this defeat,all we are gonna hear from that Indian troll is you lost after following on. That will be hard to shake off until The Ashes come around.

Look on the bright side. You won't have to worry about choosing whether to enforce any follow-ons during the Ashes.

 

[CricAddict]

Wrong
@Burgey would be insulted to be ranked 2. He's the undisputed ATG

Should have a poll between Shri and Burgey. Will be a tough one.

 

[R!TTER]

Or winning the Ashes for that matter, 5-nil Oz win coming up

 

[Gnske]

Or winning the Ashes for that matter, 5-nil Oz win coming up

Bold given Warner looks so weak he probably couldn't even go 3-Nil up on a 3 course meal.

 

[Line and Length]

Wonderful game and well done NZ. I thought a turning point was Stokes unable to run twos in the Root/Stokes stand.

 

[BazBall21]

Insane inevitability from Wagner tbf. He looked like an absolute grandad in that first test. Beyond finished.

 

[Athlai]

Bold given Warner looks so weak he probably couldn't even go 3-Nil up on a 3 course meal.

Yeah he'd get the ****s before the third

 

[Bahnz]

It's been a great 5 match home:away series between these two teams. Think 4:1 is a pretty fair reflection of where they stand with respect to each other. England clearly that bit better in all departments, but NZ fully deserving to get on the scoreboard.

As much as Wagner shouldn't be playing it's great to see him and Timmy and Kane get one last scrap with their old rivals in Broad, Jimmy and Root and getting the best of them.

 

[CricAddict]

Or winning the Ashes for that matter, 5-nil Oz win coming up

The Ashes will be a strongly contested series this time. But Australia will need a mentally fine Cummins to turn up. I am hoping all goes well for him personally and he returns to Ashes stronger.

 

[jcas0167]

It's easy to say now, but would Foakes have been better served taking the Steve Waugh approach and let Leach take strike (must have turned down about 15 runs at least)? Leach seems a reasonably well organised player.

Ultimately, an amazing test match and kudos to Wagner for sticking at it when he must have been exhausted. Stokes and McCullum have said they're trying to make test cricket exciting and they're delivering on that.

 

[thierry henry]

How are they not rating themselves to get a no 10 and 11 by conventional means?

Like….it worked again, it’s worked for years, it’s ****ing Wagnerball baby….but I honestly still think we could’ve got Leach and/or Anderson by going full and straight with slips.Or hell, even Wagnerball with yorkers.

 

[Athlai]

It's been a great 5 match home:away series between these two teams. Think 4:1 is a pretty fair reflection of where they stand with respect to each other. England clearly that bit better in all departments, but NZ fully deserving to get on the scoreboard.

As much as Wagner shouldn't be playing it's great to see him and Timmy and Kane get one last scrap with their old rivals in Broad, Jimmy and Root and getting the best of them.

That 3-0 had a few close ones in it. 3-1 instead of 4-1 probably accurate too

 

[BazBall21]

Look on the bright side. You won't have to worry about choosing whether to enforce any follow-ons during the Ashes.

4-1 England.

 

[R!TTER]

The Ashes will be a strongly contested series this time. But Australia will need a mentally fine Cummins to turn up. I am hoping all goes well for him personally and he returns to Ashes stronger.

Generally speaking Oz do bounce back well when they're beaten as bad as they're likely to against us in India. Cummins will be the key & if they have their full strength bowling I do expect them to win in Eng, even if not through a whitewash.

 

[anil1405]

Most of the close finishes involving England in the last decade or two have gone their way. Nice to see one go against them and more importantly in NZs favour.

 

[Croadymeister]

Give it a rest

How about put yourself in our position

 

[Starfighter]

How about put yourself in our position

Piss off.

 

[nzfan]

I'm exhausted watching this test match, imagine the players. I need a drink and at least a week to recover.

 

[R!TTER]

Most of the close finishes involving England in the last decade or two have gone their way. Nice to see one go against them and more importantly in NZs favour.

Too many, the tide will turn though like what happens when Anders/Broad & then Stokes retire? Bassball only works when they have the players to pull it off, they'll find winning is not so easy when you don't have the same quality anymore! The ODI approach is interesting but again as I noted previously it's not sustainable IMO - for instance Crawley won't become a world beater just because of a change in approach.

 

[ashley bach]

4-1 England.

Don't bother trolling a GOAT