*Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

[Aidan11]

Leach won't play in the second test so Bashir will replace him. That would also suggest we need to stick with one seam bowler. Robinson would be my choice.

 

[Molehill]

Leach won't play in the second test so Bashir will replace him. That would also suggest we need to stick with one seam bowler. Robinson would be my choice.

Bashir has the opportunity to become the fourth debutant spinner in a row to take a fivefer (Jacks, Rehan, Hartley).

 

[chris.hinton]

The coaching that Stokes and McCullum put into the spinners is awesome.

Hartley 24, Ahmed 19, Bashir 20

What an exciting future for spin. And they are still learning. India are going to lose 5-0

 

[mackembhoy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752583708702605665

 

[Daemon]

So apparently Joe Root at 11,447 career runs, has more than the entire India squad put together

 

[danzydab]

i wonder if leach's place in jeopardy. hartley fills the spin quota and the no.8 who can bat.

dont think hartley will be as effective as leach outside asian conditions though.

 

[Molehill]

So apparently Joe Root at 11,447 career runs, has more than the entire India squad put together

If Ashwin had got injured instead of Jadeja, I think Anderson could've made a similar claim.

 

[Chin Music]

i wonder if leach's place in jeopardy. hartley fills the spin quota and the no.8 who can bat.

dont think hartley will be as effective as leach outside asian conditions though.

Leach would still likely be no.1 for a test played in England, yes but his round the world record isn't that great outside of Asia, and I think Joe Root has a better test match bowling average INSIDE Asia than him. Indeed Leach averages 32.09 in Asia to Root's 29.90. It is a bit disingenuous though as Leach has bowled a lot more overs than him there and Root's 5-6 on the last tour a significant factor in that.

 

[Gremlin]

i wonder if leach's place in jeopardy. hartley fills the spin quota and the no.8 who can bat.

dont think hartley will be as effective as leach outside asian conditions though.

Are you basing that on his action or his stage of career? I do think Hartley has demonstrated a bit of fight and willingness to learn.

 

[honestbharani]

Man Bazball will be the greatest revolution in cricket since reverse swing, if they beat us 5-0 here after beating Pakistan 3-0 there. I am scared of this next test now. Innings defeat on the cards.

 

[mackembhoy]

Man Bazball will be the greatest revolution in cricket since reverse swing, if they beat us 5-0 here after beating Pakistan 3-0 there. I am scared of this next test now. Innings defeat on the cards.

At least our gambhiring is based on what has occurred previously. More chance of yourselves and Pakistan becoming allies than England doing any of that.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Root is now the World's #4 Test allrounder (ahead of his captain) in the ICC rankings.

 

[Molehill]

Root is now the World's #4 Test allrounder (ahead of his captain) in the ICC rankings.

Is Stokes even an all rounder now?

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Is Stokes even an all rounder now?

Top 6 bat + GOAT captain. Probably counts.

 

[Howe_zat]

Leach ruled out of the second test according to cricinfo

Let's replace him with @Aidan11 's kitchen

 

[mackembhoy]

Is Stokes even an all rounder now?

His fielding and captaincy could be argued as a all round skillset in the loosest of terms.

But I'm not sure we see him bowl again anytime soon. So hard to call him one anymore.

 

[honestbharani]

At least our gambhiring is based on what has occurred previously. More chance of yourselves and Pakistan becoming allies than England doing any of that.

Hey, that would be a very acceptable outcome, esp. if we both can kick your teams' asses in cricket. Its not exactly retaliation for the colonizing but it will do.

 

[mackembhoy]

Hey, that would be a very acceptable outcome, esp. if we both can kick your teams' asses in cricket. Its not exactly retaliation for the colonizing but it will do.

No arguments here.

I reckon one of the only good things that the British Empire/colonial Britain did, was getting cricket spread to other countries.

The rest well we'd be in our pre 1st test chat conversations if we went there. Nobody wants that again

 

[honestbharani]

No arguments here.

I reckon one of the only good things that the British Empire/colonial Britain did, was getting cricket spread to other countries.

The rest well we'd be in our pre 1st test chat conversations if we went there. Nobody wants that again

Nah I think its silly to hold a different generation accountable. We are good.

 

[mackembhoy]

Nah I think its silly to hold a different generation accountable. We are good.

Dunno about that I certainly hold my dad to account. I mean he moaned about Alasdair Cook batting throughout his career.

Just expected everyone to be Viv Richards. He had to watch Tavare and Boycott bat and he's bemoaning Cook, daft prick.