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New Cricket Trivia - 'SJS format'
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fredfertang
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Is it anything to do with WG and/or the London County XI?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
The two of us played two innings which are very similar in some respects but they are also unique. No one has done this (the unique aspect of those two innings), in about a hundred years, and it is unlikely that anyone will do it again.
Who are we, which are these two innings and what was unique about them ?
Q1. Are the two of you related?......NO
Q2. Were the innings in the same match? ........ NO
Q3. Are the innings test innings? ......NO
Q4. Were the two innings in the same season? ........NO But here is the next similarity, they were exactly one year apart - plus/minus 24 hours !!
Q5. Were the innings played in England? ..... YES
Q6. FC match? ..... YES
Q7. County Championship? ...... NO
]Q8. Is it anything to do with WG and/or the London County XI? ...... NO
In addition we have been told that
- the two of us had the same first name
- that the matches were uncannily similar.
- Both innings were centuries.
- Both innings were against the same side.
NEXT HINT : Both innings were against MCC
Who are we, which are these two innings and what was unique about them ?
Q1. Are the two of you related?......NO
Q2. Were the innings in the same match? ........ NO
Q3. Are the innings test innings? ......NO
Q4. Were the two innings in the same season? ........NO But here is the next similarity, they were exactly one year apart - plus/minus 24 hours !!
Q5. Were the innings played in England? ..... YES
Q6. FC match? ..... YES
Q7. County Championship? ...... NO
]Q8. Is it anything to do with WG and/or the London County XI? ...... NO
In addition we have been told that
- the two of us had the same first name
- that the matches were uncannily similar.
- Both innings were centuries.
- Both innings were against the same side.
NEXT HINT : Both innings were against MCC
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Defining the golden age as 1890-1914 did either or both innings get played in it?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Q9. Defining the golden age as 1890-1914 did either or both innings get played in it? ...... NO (later)
Q10. Were both matches played at Lord's? ..... YES
Q11. Did one or both involve a touring side? ..... NO
The players are not well known, you have to try and think why the matches were kind of unique.
Q10. Were both matches played at Lord's? ..... YES
Q11. Did one or both involve a touring side? ..... NO
The players are not well known, you have to try and think why the matches were kind of unique.
archie mac
International Coach
Is it to do with the way they were dismissed?
Is the name Bill?
Is the name Bill?
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Did the Johns play for Oxford and/or Cambridge Universities?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Were the matches concerned played in the late 30's?
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I suspect the surnames are Lomas and Thompson but if that is correct I must confess I cannot see anything obviously unique about the games
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Q!4. Were the matches concerned played in the late 30's?
Q15. I suspect the surnames are Lomas and Thompson but if that is correct I must confess I cannot see anything obviously unique about the games
YES and YES
Well, any hint I try to give at this stage will give it away but I suppose that doesn't mater.
Both these games broke the cricket laws in a way.
Q15. I suspect the surnames are Lomas and Thompson but if that is correct I must confess I cannot see anything obviously unique about the games
YES and YES
Well, any hint I try to give at this stage will give it away but I suppose that doesn't mater.
Both these games broke the cricket laws in a way.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
All I can think of is that both games were 2 day games and contained declarations so perhaps those declarations were illegal?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
There was confusion regarding what should be classified as a first class match. It was understood that a first class match would be of three day duration but sometimes liberties were taken.
Brodribb in his book on the history of the cricket laws states that
'historians who try to keep a statistical record of the game have in the past been frequently troubled about the status of certain matches and whether they could be regarded as first class. About matches in the future there should be no more difficulty since the 1947 ruling clarified most problems though this did not help matches in the past'
' The ruling about three days duration should be clear but there have been inconsistencies, as for examples when MCC played Cambridge University in 1938 and Oxford University in 1939 in matches allotted just two days.'
' The ruling about three days duration should be clear but there have been inconsistencies, as for examples when MCC played Cambridge University in 1938 and Oxford University in 1939 in matches allotted just two days.'
It appears that this was done just to allow a days rest before the Varsity match which was then being given a start on Saturday. These were the last two matches in the world to have first class status although being of two days duration.
Your turn.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I played a few Test Matches over the years but with no great success.
After I finished playing test cricket I did achieve a first class record but that was for my batting.
Who am I?
After I finished playing test cricket I did achieve a first class record but that was for my batting.
Who am I?