Moeen Ali racially abused

[sledger]

Publisher: “Pretty dull, bog standard cricketing bio you’ve written here mate. Anything juicy you can add?”

Moeen: “Well...”

So you're basically accusing him of lying? Wtf

 

[Red]

Surely being called "Osama" would matter to any Muslim? It doesn't matter whether it caused him to reveal it there and then, if his accusation is correct, it deserves to be in the public domain along with punishment regardless of whether sooner or later.

In relation to your second sentence, the allegation is the purpose of the investigation. It should be treated as an allegation until then rather than the objective truth.

So why’s he not named the player who said it instead of generalising about the whole Aust team?

Cos you know, let’s not generalise about groups of people. We should be specific...

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Released on a day where we saw a historic moment in cricket history.

Tamim Iqbal, already ruled out of the Asia Cup. Came out to bat when 9 wickets were down.

This moooen story needs to take a backseat

 

[Red]

So you're basically accusing him of lying? Wtf

Where exactly did I accuse him of lying?

 

[GIMH]

So why’s he not named the player who said it instead of generalising about the whole Aust team?

Cos you know, let’s not generalise about groups of people. We should be specific...

You’ve posted on here long enough for me to know you’re better than this.

Think about what you’re saying.

 

[Red]

You’ve posted on here long enough for me to know you’re better than this.

Think about what you’re saying.

No, answer the question! I don’t need the condescending reproval.

Why doesn’t he name the player, but instead chooses to besmirch the entire Aust team?

 

[andmark]

So why’s he not named the player who said it instead of generalising about the whole Aust team?

Cos you know, let’s not generalise about groups of people. We should be specific...

I have no idea why he's not named the Australian player, but why is that relevant? It deserves investigating and an adequate investigation would ask Moeen about it- specifically about who did it and when. I don't see the relevance other than a pessimistic afterthought of Moeen's timing.

What are you inferring with your second sentence?

 

[Red]

I have no idea why he's not named the Australian player, but why is that relevant? It deserves investigating and an adequate investigation would ask Moeen about it- specifically about who did it and when. I don't see the relevance other than a pessimistic afterthought of Moeen's timing.

What are you inferring with your second sentence?

Not inferring anything. I’m stating that generalising about groups of ppl is wrong.

Calling someone Osama because they are Muslim is wrong.

Casting aspersions on a whole team because of the actions of one of them is wrong.

 

[sledger]

So why’s he not named the player who said it instead of generalising about the whole Aust team?

Cos you know, let’s not generalise about groups of people. We should be specific...

Yes, because "member of the Australian test team" is not specific at all.

 

[GIMH]

No, answer the question! I don’t need the condescending reproval.

Why doesn’t he name the player, but instead chooses to besmirch the entire Aust team?

Can you really not think of any reasons why?

 

[Red]

Can you really not think of any reasons why?

No. I can’t.

You tell me.

 

[Red]

Yes, because "member of the Australian test team" is not specific at all.

Correct. It’s not specific. At all.

 

[sledger]

Correct. It’s not specific. At all.

 

[GIMH]

Correct. It’s not specific. At all.

It’s not casting aspersions on the whole team though is it

 

[weldone]

No, it isn't but terrorist is an awful stereotype Muslims in the West face every day. Context is key. Calling a German person a Nazi would be the same thing, or an Irishman an IRA terrorist, yes but that's hardly relevant.

I simply thought it below myself to answer such a ridiculous loaded question.

Spot on - calling a German a Nazi is the closest it can get to calling Moeen Osama.

And those who are perfectly fine with the latter should try the former irl sometimes (hopefully in a street in Berlin without wearing any protective gear).

 

[Burgey]

Because he, or his publisher, doesn’t want to be sued for defamation

 

[andmark]

Not inferring anything. I’m stating that generalising about groups of ppl is wrong.

Calling someone Osama because they are Muslim is wrong.

Casting aspersions on a whole team because of the actions of one of them is wrong.

We may have reached some sort of happy medium inasmuch as I agree that Moeen should've named the player rather than using anonymous phrasing. The person's name will eventually come out, but I really couldn't care less as to whether Moeen's released the allegation to boost book sales. For what it's worth, as I'm seeing this, you're sort of on Nelson for post count.

 

[weldone]

The way CA ****s everything up, I expect their investigation to clear the player in question and to determine that Ali has questions to answer concerning his whereabouts in September 2001.

Ok that made me chuckle heh.

 

[andmark]

We may have reached some sort of happy medium inasmuch as I agree that Moeen should've named the player rather than using anonymous phrasing. The person's name will eventually come out, but I really couldn't care less as to whether Moeen's released the allegation to boost book sales. For what it's worth, as I'm seeing this, you're sort of on Nelson for post count.

Best case scenario, he would've reported the incident there and then, but I'm not Moeen. I have no idea how it affected him.

 

[Gnske]

It’s not casting aspersions on the whole team though is it

Isn't it?

The band of suspects spans the entire team. While saying who exactly it was would be an icky situation in context of the evidence, it's essentially a game now of guess the racist from these 11 men you see before you.