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Miandad gets it spot on

Swervy

International Captain
cricket player said:
If you dont tour a country because of the Bomb attacks and terrorism,You are making the terrorists life easier,by letting them know that They have succeded in what they want,Which is scaring the **** out of the people and ****ing the economy.
it is a bit more tricky than that when you have a wife and kids to think about as well
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Rubbish - it was all one carefully planned attack.

If anything I'd say London is safer now.
defiantely its much safer than Karachi, plus this is another crazy comment from Maindad... :dry:
 

Tony Blade

U19 Cricketer
marc71178 said:
How can they guarantee safety in a city that is so volatile?

And besides, didn't the ECB send out an independent firm to report on it?
Its not as volatile as everyone makes it out to be.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sorry, but when you get comments like the Mayor's one I'm afraid it's volatile enough to make it a no-go zone.
 

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Pratyush said:
Fact 3: ECB may not want to tour Pakistan due to safety concerns but those concerns are not a factor if Pakistan takes responsibility for safety.

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Worst case scenario: terrorist, etc targets area close to team (doesnt necessarily have to be directed at cricket squad)

What makes you think that Pakistanis are any more capable of preventing random acts of violence than other security forces.

What possible compensation could the Pakistanis offer to those left behind?

IMO, international cricket boards have a responsibility to their players to heed govt security warnings. Should innocent locals struggle financially, emotionally, etc as a result then blame the terrorists not the cricketers.



Really, taking "responsibility" is such a hollow term.
 

EnglishRose

School Boy/Girl Captain
marc71178 said:
The 2 cases are nothing like each other.
Do explain why ? The Brits are the no2 terrorist target in the world after the Yanks.
And yet you expect people to have no worries about playing in London ?

Again typical arrogant British attitude.
 

EnglishRose

School Boy/Girl Captain
Swervy said:
sounds like typical crap from Miandad...a world of difference between the highly volatile and instabe atmosphre of Karachi (didnt the mayor say there would be a bloodbath in Karachi recently) and a city that is at risk of terrorist attack (much like every major city in the world) like London.

Do you think Islamic extremist would really target the Pakistani team in London?

In the off topic thread, you rail about the media making such a big deal about caial tensions in London. Yet it is the same media that makes such a big deal about Karachi's supposed unsafety. (i am assuming you're relying on media reports with regards to your references regarding the "volatile" and "instable" atmosphere
:D ). Unlikely that you have been to Karachi :p)
You can't have it both ways Skippy.

As for the second part of your post......Skippy, terrorist attacks usually don't discriminate in terms of the victims they take.
On 9/11/2001, the targets were clearly identifiable yet the deaths included people of the Islamic faith.

What's there to suggest the Pakistani cricket team or another foreign sports team for that matter will not be "collateral damage" in the
event of another terrorist attack on London (hopefully there won't be one!).
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
How can they guarantee safety in a city that is so volatile?

And besides, didn't the ECB send out an independent firm to report on it?
Can safety be guaranteed in any city really is the more pertinent question.
 

dinu23

International Debutant
so u can gurantee that England won't have any more bombs blowing. I don't think so.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Swervy said:
name one city in which a 100% guarantee like that can be made
None. So if the home county is giving a security provision and taking responsibility, its all that can be done.

So why make an issue as England did.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
EnglishRose said:
Do explain why ? The Brits are the no2 terrorist target in the world after the Yanks.
And yet you expect people to have no worries about playing in London ?

Again typical arrogant British attitude.
You what?

I don't remember Ken Livingstone saying that there'd be a bloodbath at the recent London Mayoral elections?

It's not an arrogant British attitude, it's common sense.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
EnglishRose said:
In the off topic thread, you rail about the media making such a big deal about caial tensions in London.
I think you'll find the talk is of tensions in Bradford and that area.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
None. So if the home county is giving a security provision and taking responsibility, its all that can be done.

So why make an issue as England did.
The issue is that whereas the odd thing will happen in any city, there are some cities where it is not just an odd incident.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
The issue is that whereas the odd thing will happen in any city, there are some cities where it is not just an odd incident.
The risk is huge in any city and if a cricket team is to be targetted it can be any where.

So stopping international cricket based on this by cancelling tours, specific venues is not the way to go.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
so what is your''re punishment if the terrorist attack happens then Pratyush, what does this taking 'responsibility' entail?
 

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