Is there a team that can beat this Asian ODI XI?

[Fuller Pilch]

Klusenar was insanely reliable in the late overs. It came as a bit of a surprise when he failed, which is saying something, cos the most typical innings for every bat ever is a failure. His overall stats, as good as they are for his era are made to look a lot worse than they are by the fact that he played a bunch up the order, from opening down. His lower order stuff is just leagues better than anyone else.

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I was wondering why Hussey wasn't on that list but I see he didn't score 1,000 runs at 7. Hussey - 725 runs at 120 (a lot of not outs).

 

[Fuller Pilch]

All rounders always suffer a massive downgrade in their secondary discipline and a minor one in their primary discipline when they go from FC to tests.

All except the great Kyle Mayers who is probably my favourite player now.

 

[subshakerz]

1988-1997, for a 10 year period Desilva was the top scoring batsman in the world
Batting avg 39.5, strike rate 85

Among top 50 scorers, Only 8 other batsmen averaged better than him.. None had better SR (Only Lara and Anwar managed a SR above 75.)
Statistically Desilva was arguably greatest batsman in the world for a decade.

Sangas peak Last 5 years
53 at 85.

Dhoni, 54 at 91, Kohli 51 at 91, AB 69 at 110, Amla 54 at 88

Again, I am fine with excluding Sanga from the middle order under the premise that his stats flatter him.

But I think you are making De Silva a better batsman that he actually was. I saw him for most career and he wasnt that reliable. Even in your peak period he couldnt cross 40.

Higher SR for a middle order bat isnt the big draw if your output is lower.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If you're playing against an ATG level side in a big game, you don't want the virgin minnow-bashing Sanga ahead of the alpha big-match winning de Silva chad

 

[subshakerz]

Starts thread with the premise that batsmen dont always have the averages they deserve.


States batsman X > others because of his batting average in another thread.

No I just disagree that Desilva is a league about Sanga.

 

[subshakerz]

If you're playing against an ATG level side in a big game, you don't want the virgin minnow-bashing Sanga ahead of the alpha big-match winning de Silva chad

Again, stats wise Sanga did better against top opposition and Desilva also minnow bashed.

However if you consider Desilva's 96 exploits that is certainly the big factor in his favor.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Even the greatest SC players were always a mercurial lot prone to imploding on big occasions. I would give even odds at least to uber professional outfits like SA and Aus from the 90s and 00s.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Again, stats wise Sanga did better against top opposition and Desilva also minnow bashed.

However if you consider Desilva's 96 exploits that is certainly the big factor in his favor.

You can pick Sanga and he'll dominate the tour games and then fail in the big game against the ROW XI

I'll pick de Silva who will sleep through the tour matches but make 130* in the actual game to beat them

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

The greatest player from Asia to have played the hook shot was Aravinda.

A man with balls of steel, wearing that helmet without a grill...

 

[Gob]

Sangakkara the OD batsman was not someone you really feared up until almost 2012. As far as I can remember, he was a sort of a guy who averaged 35 while striking at 77. I would put him with Kallis for the most part though he never had the slogging capability that Kallis possessed (even though hardly used). De Silva was easily better and there were many more and I would not discuss his name much unless we are picking players from specific points from their careers

Also Ponting is a better OD bat than Lara. Can't remember but it came up somewhere

 

[Migara]

The greatest player from Asia to have played the hook shot was Aravinda.

A man with balls of steel, wearing that helmet without a grill...

Played for 19 frikking years. No fast bowler has managed to hit him on the helmet or face. And he effectively played short pitched stuff of fastest of bowlers like Imran, Wasim, Shoaib, Donald, Schultz, Lee, Zahid, Bishop, Ambrose etc with ease. (I have seen him copping few blows off spinners when he was trying to sweep though)

Don't think even Viv holds the record of not being hit.

 

[TheJediBrah]

1996 is before my time but I saw him slap Aus around in 2003 and this was Brett Lee when he was about the best white-ball bowler in the world

 

[Migara]

He was pretty god awful against spin in his early years (very uncharacteristic for a SL batsman). It took him 10 years to get his game together against top class spin.

He was not even the best FC batsmen in the country in 1982-3 period. But some one saw the disdainful way he played pace and selected him for tests in 1984 over much famed school boy counterparts.

 

[Himannv]

If there was a car on offer as prize for man of the series, he would win it for sure. At his peak, it was as if he could dominate if he wanted to, and in meaningless games he wouldn't be bothered. He was even scoring runs and finding the gaps without even paying a whole lot of attention when he was at his best.

 

[_00_deathscar]

De Silva absolutely was a league or two above Sanga, who shouldn’t be in the discussion at all save for being a keeper bat. And there’s already a better one.

 

[Jayro]

I remember a peak Arvinda toying with Indian bowling like they were school boys back in 1997 , the image of him exposing all three stumps and yet taking a stance so far wide to the leg side was like challanging the Indian bowlers and spectators alike seems still vivid in the memory,it was devastating for us to believe for why we were still not able to neither get him nor stop the flow of runs.

 

[subshakerz]

Okay then. I have been browbeaten by your barrage of opinions to grant Desilva as an overlooked ODI great in a way that Sanga was not.

 

[ankitj]

Aravinda scarred us Indian fans badly

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Aravinda scarred us Indian fans badly

Not as badly as Sanga scarred Himannv that time he stole his car.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Again, I am fine with excluding Sanga from the middle order under the premise that his stats flatter him.

But I think you are making De Silva a better batsman that he actually was. I saw him for most career and he wasnt that reliable. Even in your peak period he couldnt cross 40.

Higher SR for a middle order bat isnt the big draw if your output is lower.

Because He was not Sachin.
Averaging 40 in that period is equivalent of averaging 50 in 2010-15.