Is there a team that can beat this Asian ODI XI?

[Migara]

Yeah Australians are all culturally and criminally connected to the English as well.

Windian players have been playing in the CC for the longest time.

Half of England’s players are South African so the shared culture is quite strong there too, not that there are any Englishmen lining up for a spot in the ROW ODI XI aside from maybe Jos and Freddie.

They’d get along great. Obviously nothing compared to 3,500 years of shared history though.

Black people and their African culture is criminally neglected here. West Indies have their own culture. nothing even close to English. Half of English players are white South Africans who only consists of less than 10% of the population and a minority culture. So no, England and Australia may share the culture. But not South Africa and West Indies. Even in NZ the Maori's got their act and won equal rights with white population, so historically NZ is also different from the rest.

 

[Migara]

Abbas, Aravinda, Miandad, Azhar, Inzy, Yuvi....etc > Sanga.

Saqlain > Murali imo.

What ever the metrics used to say Sqlain > Murali will end up with Mendis > Saqlain

 

[Migara]

I don't see what's wrong for Sanga to have a 5-year peak at the end and ending up with a goodish record. He could have peaked earlier and declined and people wouldnt have as much an issue.

To compare, Sanga has almost basically the same overall record as Ponting, and they both benefited from the same era, yet Ponting is considered an ODI ATG while Sanga is immediately written off?

You can downgrade Sanga which is fine. But then you cant pretend someone averaging 34 with a slightly better SR like DeSilva is a better option for an all-time XI middle order. That kind of average is not going to build huge scores consistently, and his SR is not high enough to offset the low average.

Is he?

 

[Migara]

I really want to expand on this.

Look, by 4500 years ago Indus valley civilization flourished in present day Pakistan. By 3500 years ago swathes of present day India had flourishing civilizations with great literature and culture. Back then Lord Rama's incursions into present day Sri Lanka were well documented. Pretty sure something was up in present day Bangaldesh too around that time; if not, we will just drop Shakib from the team.

The white people world on the other hand had comparable civilization only since about 2500 years ago. And honestly, I am being charitable by letting British people (whose descendants dominate cricket in AUS, NZ and SA) claim ancient Greek heritage. In reality, highest civilizational achievement of people in Britain at the time was balancing stones on top of stones.

Despite all this if you think ROW XI can beat Asian XI, lol

Great Gangaridai empire in the time of Alexendar. Alexendar the great experienced mutiny after they heard about the strength of the Army of the empire, then goverened by Nanda dynasty. And Bengal was the richest area in India before Moghul incursion too.

 

[Migara]

So you're saying Pakistan about 1,000 x > India?

India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanisthan all were post-colonial creations. It was known as "Baharatha" in the past, or for easy understanding we can call it the sub continent.

 

[subshakerz]

Is he?

Yes, in most people's top ten ODI batsmen ever.

 

[Burgey]

India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanisthan all were post-colonial creations. It was known as "Baharatha" in the past, or for easy understanding we can call it the sub continent.

I’ll see your 5,500 odd year old culture and raise you 65,000 years and counting. #aussieaussieaussie

 

[Burgey]

Is he?

Of course he is. Jfc man

 

[GIMH]

There have been a lot of pages so I skipped a few however quite clearly the all-rounder for the non-Asia team should be Flintoff. Fact

 

[Himannv]

I don't see what's wrong for Sanga to have a 5-year peak at the end and ending up with a goodish record. He could have peaked earlier and declined and people wouldnt have as much an issue.

To compare, Sanga has almost basically the same overall record as Ponting, and they both benefited from the same era, yet Ponting is considered an ODI ATG while Sanga is immediately written off?

You can downgrade Sanga which is fine. But then you cant pretend someone averaging 34 with a slightly better SR like DeSilva is a better option for an all-time XI middle order. That kind of average is not going to build huge scores consistently, and his SR is not high enough to offset the low average.

Post reported for blasphemy.

 

[Burgey]

There have been a lot of pages so I skipped a few however quite clearly the all-rounder for the non-Asia team should be Flintoff. Fact

Really shouldn’t be. He performed in yer Who Gives A **** Cups but not when it really mattered.

 

[Himannv]

Can't believe people are rating Sanga at all in ODIs. He was a useful keeper and sledger but that's about it.

 

[subshakerz]

There have been a lot of pages so I skipped a few however quite clearly the all-rounder for the non-Asia team should be Flintoff. Fact

I will take Klusener. Good fit for number 7 position.

 

[Daemon]

He was a useful keeper and sledger but that's about it.

first time I'm hearing anyone call sledger useful

 

[subshakerz]

Can't believe people are rating Sanga at all in ODIs. He was a useful keeper and sledger but that's about it.

It depends what you mean by 'rating'. Comparing him to De Silva, Azhar, Yuvraj who also seem out of place in an all-time Asian XI middle order.

 

[Himannv]

first time I'm hearing anyone call sledger useful

That man is considered God by all the little GDPR people.

 

[Jayro]

Adam Gilchrist
Brian Lara,
Viv Richards,
Dean Jones,
Abdv,
Bevan,
Pollock,
Klusener,
Ambrose,
Garner,
Mcgrath,

This team doesn't need a spinner regardless of the pitch esp. against asians, also they are almost guarenteed to keep the score under 250 notwithstanding the opposite batting line up.

 

[GIMH]

Really shouldn’t be. He performed in yer Who Gives A **** Cups but not when it really mattered.

This is true I suppose. Have always felt with Freddie if he had played in the modern England ODI teams we’d have got so much out of him. We had an absolute prank approach to ODIs but his stats were brilliant.

 

[subshakerz]

Adam Gilchrist
Brian Lara,
Viv Richards,
Dean Jones,
Abdv,
Bevan,
Pollock,
Klusener,
Ambrose,
Garner,
Mcgrath,

This team doesn't need a spinner regardless of the pitch esp. against asians, also they are almost guarenteed to keep the score under 250 notwithstanding the opposite batting line up.

Great team. I would switch Pollock and Klusener and put Ponting for Dean Jones. However, not having a spinner is still a big gamble. I think even Pollock, McGrath and Garner would be a super tight combo. Still, missing a reverse swinger though.

I think on non-subcontinent wickets this team will challenge the Asian XI thoroughly if not beat them.

 

[Himannv]

It depends what you mean by 'rating'. Comparing him to De Silva, Azhar, Yuvraj who also seem out of place in an all-time Asian XI middle order.

They're all much better than him.