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How good COULD Pakistan be?

Will Scarlet

U19 Debutant
Pakistan has the potential to be the best cricketing nation, if only big business was not in control of the PCB and the board stayed out of the selection process. After all, Pakistan has produced a wealth of fine batsmen, spin bowlers, and fast bowlers in the last 20 years.

It would also help if their fans were not so destructive to players' mindset.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
I think that on a dead pitch he could go for quite a few runs (see Vs Sri Lanka in Abu Dhabi) because he bowls length very often and could go for a few in the latter overs of a game.
Such pitches are the scourge of modern day cricket.

Could be wrong, but I don't think Asif is quite as perfect as some people have him as.
No one is painting him as perfect.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
Yes, you could either give him 10 off the reel or 7 or 8 then another 2 or 3 from about the 30th over or so. The sort of job Pollock has been - sensibly - being given for the last couple of years.

It's a complete waste to have him bowling at the death. You might as well give those death overs to someone else who'll be equally expensive, than give someone else the overs in the middle and have both go for plenty.
Yeah, find myself agreeing with you here. Why the hell would you have him bowl at the death if hes almost perfectly suited to bowling with the new ball. I mean, even if he did improve at the death I'd only bowl him at the death as a last resort because hes just that much more effective than most other bowlers in the overs before the death. Plus we have other good death bowlers like Gul so I don't see why we'd need to use Asif at that time.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Razzaq is getting more and more lazy do you guys think Arafat would be a competent long term replacement for him?
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Razzaq is getting more and more lazy do you guys think Arafat would be a competent long term replacement for him?
Not too sure, Razzaq's batting is terribly under-rated and I haven't seen much to suggest that Arafat can match it. His bowling is better and fielding is far superior.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
Don't really think they're competing for a place at this point. Razzaq quite clearly provides more with the bat, and Arafat looks to be a better bowler. Arafat would probably be an ideal number 8 but I can't think of who I'd drop to accomodate him.
 

gunner

U19 Cricketer
razzaq makes up for his incompetence in bowling(past 2 years) and his fielding with his destructive batting anyway
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
razzaq makes up for his incompetence in bowling(past 2 years) and his fielding with his destructive batting anyway
Razzaq is just a medium-pace basher, teams have figured this out now and its just a matter of time when his late order hitting would turn in to a non entity.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
Razzaq is just a medium-pace basher, teams have figured this out now and its just a matter of time when his late order hitting would turn in to a non entity.
8-) Thats why hes easily our most consistent late order hitter and comes off much more often than guys like Afridi. You don't hit McGrath for 20 in an over by being a "medium-pace basher". I'd say when his late order hitting declines we should look for someone else but as of right now hes our best.
 

gunner

U19 Cricketer
8-) Thats why hes easily our most consistent late order hitter and comes off much more often than guys like Afridi. You don't hit McGrath for 20 in an over by being a "medium-pace basher". I'd say when his late order hitting declines we should look for someone else but as of right now hes our best.
i remember that,

i would never live down him not hitting the final ball for 4 runs
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
8-) Thats why hes easily our most consistent late order hitter and comes off much more often than guys like Afridi. You don't hit McGrath for 20 in an over by being a "medium-pace basher". I'd say when his late order hitting declines we should look for someone else but as of right now hes our best.
Yeah, Razzaq when he gets in the mood (especially when he's playing England at Karachi) is probably the most phenominal late-innings hitter you'll see.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
Don't know why but have never really been convinced with Razzaq's batting in tests or ODI matches. Maybe it's technique outside of stump against a moving ball aas the reasons I've never rated him. I do understand that he can be a fericious late order hitter in the final 5-10 overs of a OD match.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
In Tests few have ever been that convinced of him. And in ODIs he's not the most consistent in history, but he's pretty good and, as I say, near enough peerless in the ferocity and inpenetrability with which he can go at bowlers.
 

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