Greatest finisher and clutch player ever?

[stephen]

And by that logic, no ODI knock is as pressure filled as one in tests. Which is just as wrong.

No, as I said tests are different all together. A side is never truly out of an ODI but in tests the state of the game is often unknown or one side is well and truly on top. There's also generally not time pressure involved. Sometimes there is (AB de Villiers knock to block out the game springs to mind). But most of the time the game is not really in the balance and the pace of your innings makes little difference to the result. You wouldn't call Hayden's runs in Brisbane in 2002/03 against England clutch, despite being game winning. He took the game away from England but he was never particularly under any pressure. He could take his time, get settled and if he got out early in the first innings, there was always the second.

ODIs require survival and scoring and changes of tempo.

Anyway, back to the topic calling Kohli a clutch player for one innings in a final his side lost is a bit funny regardless of which way you slice it.

 

[honestbharani]

Anyway, back to the topic, I am extremely biased and never right regardless of which way you slice it.

Yeah, quite.

 

[Daemon]

A side is never truly out of an ODI

This applies even more to T20s

 

[stephen]

Yeah, quite.

You should change your name to dishonest bharani given your true modus operandi.

 

[stephen]

This applies even more to T20s

True, but the way to come back in a t20 is to simply swing harder, ride your luck more. There's very little innings building or pacing required. It's just not a particularly good format for international cricket.

 

[Burgey]

There's really not enough time in a T20 for pressure to build.

I don’t think this is the case tbh

 

[Burgey]

IMO stands for In My Opinion, old man.

In your case it stands for “I’m mostly odious.”

 

[honestbharani]

In your case it stands for “I’m mostly odious.”

 

[sunilz]

Why can't we all agree that Kohli is a choker in ODI and Smith in 4th innings?
What is the need to fight amongst ourselves? ?

 

[honestbharani]

Why can't we all agree that Kohli is a choker in ODI and Smith in 4th innings?
What is the need to fight amongst ourselves? ?

 

[Burgey]

Why can't we all agree that Kohli is a choker in ODI and Smith in 4th innings?
What is the need to fight amongst ourselves? ?

I’ll happily agree to this providing you add Kohli in third innings of tests as well, and of course acknowledge tendulkar basically threw up on himself whenever it counted in ODIs

 

[Burgey]

Oh look,
It’s HB with a hitherto never before seen original post

 

[sunilz]

I’ll happily agree to this providing you add Kohli in third innings of tests as well, and of course acknowledge tendulkar basically threw up on himself whenever it counted in ODIs

Basically for Steve Smith to be called choker , I should accept that Tendulkar is also a choker because we both agree on Kohli ?

 

[Daemon]

Pressure factor

((population)*(no. of overs in game)*(no. of effigies burned during career)*/((no. of ATG players in team)*(GDP per capita)))

Checked the numbers and this is quite accurate

 

[honestbharani]

Basically for Steve Smith to be called choker , I should accept that Tendulkar is also a choker because we both agree on Kohli ?

Lol... good luck thinking that is all it takes. And we did not bring up the world famous choker that is Border.

 

[honestbharani]

Oh look,
It’s HB with a hitherto never before seen original post

Can only point out what you are doing mate. So post something original to see something original from others.

 

[Burgey]

Lol... good luck thinking that is all it takes. And we did not bring up the world famous choker that is Border.

Yeah 30 odd and a key wicket while captaining a side to a wc final win is the definition of choking...

 

[Burgey]

Basically for Steve Smith to be called choker , I should accept that Tendulkar is also a choker because we both agree on Kohli ?

Yes! This is how it works.

Sunilz gets it, while HB continues to flop around like a hapless water buffalo

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah 30 odd and a key wicket while captaining a side to a wc final win is the definition of choking...

So, Ranatunga >> Border?

 

[honestbharani]

Yes! This is how it works.

Sunilz gets it, while HB continues to flop around like a hapless water buffalo