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Flintoff having knee surgery...
- Thread starter four_or_six
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dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Don't pay him if he doesn't play AFAIK. Pretty good value, I'd say.Great value for Chennai tho, eh?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
If he got hurt while playing in the IPL, he gets paid for the time he is available.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Ha, probly done them a favour then, way he's been playing.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Plus, stop spamming the forums. A thread only needs to be created when he is not going through some sort of ankle or knee explosion.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
King Pietersen
International Captain
Should only be out for 3 to 5 weeks so it's not that bad for England really. It's a degenerative injury, meaning he'd have broken down eventually anyway, and him needing surgery now is far better than him needing surgery 2 weeks before the start of the Ashes. People will moan about him going to the IPL to earn some extra cash and that being the reason he got injured, but it would have happened anyway. This means he can have the surgery, recover and get some practise in in time for possibly the T20 WC and definitely the Ashes. Also means we can give Bell or Bopara a go against the Windies alongside Shah to see who should have that #3 spot.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Will play all 5 tests.
Even if he plays all the 5 he will be totally ineffective or will break down again.. the man is as brittle as chalk..
rivera213
U19 Vice-Captain
He shouldn't have gone to the IPL. The ECB really needs to grow a pair of balls and govern the players.
Flintoff has a history of injuries, was injured in the recent series against the West Indies yet went to the IPL a matter of 2 months before the most important series for an English player having only recently come back.
Being out for "only" 3-5 weeks in itself doesn't sound too bad but he will hardly be at full fitness and form come the first test match. Considering he is our most important player, our best bowler and a pair of safe hands it was an irresponsible move from both him and especially the ECB.
What is the point of having central contracts?
Flintoff has a history of injuries, was injured in the recent series against the West Indies yet went to the IPL a matter of 2 months before the most important series for an English player having only recently come back.
Being out for "only" 3-5 weeks in itself doesn't sound too bad but he will hardly be at full fitness and form come the first test match. Considering he is our most important player, our best bowler and a pair of safe hands it was an irresponsible move from both him and especially the ECB.
What is the point of having central contracts?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
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Haha. Hahahaha, Hahahahahahahahahhahahamuhahahahahahaha.
The big oaf got injured again, probably a good thing for Chennai, he can't lose them any more games with bat and ball and they don't have to pay him. Can't wait for the Sunday papers now, the Windies series comms will be funny too.
Yeah I seriously can't see him playing all 5 ashes tests, unless he conceals an injury and plays anyway (not unlikely, the way he's going this could well be his last home ashes series). Probably a good thing for England, they never seem to win tests with him playing.
The big oaf got injured again, probably a good thing for Chennai, he can't lose them any more games with bat and ball and they don't have to pay him. Can't wait for the Sunday papers now, the Windies series comms will be funny too.
Yeah I seriously can't see him playing all 5 ashes tests, unless he conceals an injury and plays anyway (not unlikely, the way he's going this could well be his last home ashes series). Probably a good thing for England, they never seem to win tests with him playing.
I enjoy Flintoff getting injured, because I believe he's an overrated chav, remember his comment to Yuvraj in the T20 world cup? "I'm going to smash your f*cking face in" that's pretty much as chavish as you can get, what a tw*t. Also Allan Donald within a day of working with him as England bowling coach identified the problem in his action that keeps getting his ankle injured, instead of putting the work in to alter his action he responded "I'm too old to change", and promptly got injured again. You listen what Allan Donald tells you boy.
Good to see you enjoying someone being injured
Anyway, as I said, England seem to win more games without him.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
The whole "England win more games without Flintoff" theory is flawed beyond belief. Let's look what we have won without him in the last couple of years:
New Zealand (X2)
West Indies
And what have we lost with him?
South Africa
West indies
India
We also lost to India & Sri Lanka without him.
No disrespect to NZ/WI, but basically we have won the series you'd expect us to win and lost the series you'd expect us to lose, except for the last series away to WI, which Flintoff obviously missed half of. if you want to try and make any of that above about Flintoff being there or not then you are on a different planet.
New Zealand (X2)
West Indies
And what have we lost with him?
South Africa
West indies
India
We also lost to India & Sri Lanka without him.
No disrespect to NZ/WI, but basically we have won the series you'd expect us to win and lost the series you'd expect us to lose, except for the last series away to WI, which Flintoff obviously missed half of. if you want to try and make any of that above about Flintoff being there or not then you are on a different planet.
rivera213
U19 Vice-Captain
It may've happened anyway, but it may not have. It's a great risk sending someone who is just coming off of an injury to play bat and ball for a few weeks instead of having him rest.
If Flintoff wasn't getting paid to go the the IPL, would he have gone anyway or stayed home to rest?
A few extra weeks' rest wouldn't have done any damage apart from to his bank account.
rivera213
U19 Vice-Captain
Yeah, I agree.
He's our best bowler and 1 of the best in the world in terms of partnership breaking and boggin the opposition down.
We wont win the Ashes without him and I can't see him being at full throttle until maybe the 3rd game in which case we may be 2-0 down.