Fastest bowler in the world today?

[Cricket_God]

No they don't, else they'd have their use discontinued.

yes they are wrong,everybody bowls at speeds they can't even think of at international level
and why should they change it hardly anybody watches those matches

 

[Cricket_God]

Was my thought upon reading the thread. I can't imagine many will be quicker, presuming Tait does get back into the game.

Tait is like the Arthurs\Sampras\Philippousis of bowling, for mine. Even his slow stuff is generally sharp by normal standards. Seen the opening ball of his spell be a 89mph inswinger before now.

speed guns just show speed of the hand their are many bowlers whose speeds
may be less than tait but are quicker of the pitch

R.P singh to laxman-I will take tait you take the others.

slingers=failures

 

[Polo23]

their are many bowlers whose speeds
may be less than tait but are quicker of the pitch

Please explain how that is physically possible. Thanks.

 

[Migara]

Please explain how that is physically possible. Thanks.

People who hit the pitch hard (with higher verical component of velocity) tens to lose less speed off the track (horizontal componet will be minimally affected by pitching). The percentage loss of pace is what you called "quicker off the pitch"

 

[Polo23]

People who hit the pitch hard (with higher verical component of velocity) tens to lose less speed off the track (horizontal componet will be minimally affected by pitching). The percentage loss of pace is what you called "quicker off the pitch"

I'm not seeing a whole lot of proof here mate. Only a poor grasp of the English language.

 

[Uppercut]

People who hit the pitch hard (with higher verical component of velocity) tens to lose less speed off the track (horizontal componet will be minimally affected by pitching). The percentage loss of pace is what you called "quicker off the pitch"

Not strictly true, "skiddy" bowlers such as Lasith Malinga are often quicker off the pitch because the ball has (quite significantly in some cases) less distance to travel. Whether the difference in friction or the difference in distance is the crucial factor depends on the pitch. So in essence you're right, bowling speed can't merely be measured by speed out of the hand.

 

[Richard]

What we know as "bowling speed" is speed out of the hand.

The significant thing (time taken for ball to travel accross wicket) isn't actually given. Yet it's more important when assessing how difficult the ball is to face.

That said, clearly it's always going to be lower for someone who releases at 95mph compared to someone who releases at 82mph.

 

[Richard]

yes they are wrong,everybody bowls at speeds they can't even think of at international level

I'm wondering where this nonsense comes from. No-one has ever come to domestic cricket in this country and been clocked notably quicker than in international cricket. Nor is there any logical reason why they should.

and why should they change it hardly anybody watches those matches

Err - so? How on Earth does the number of spectators change the speed the ball is going to be released at?

 

[Cricket_God]

I'm wondering where this nonsense comes from. No-one has ever come to domestic cricket in this country and been clocked notably quicker than in international cricket. Nor is there any logical reason why they should.

Err - so? How on Earth does the number of spectators change the speed the ball is going to be released at?

Darren powell clocked 150 consistently when playing in the english domestic season
and is bowlingin the 130 in international crikcet

just read the whole post ,it was in response to somebody who said that if speed gun was faulty they should have replaced it.who cares when nobody is watching it.

 

[Uppercut]

What we know as "bowling speed" is speed out of the hand.

The significant thing (time taken for ball to travel accross wicket) isn't actually given. Yet it's more important when assessing how difficult the ball is to face.

I don't know about that, unplayable bouncers would repeatedly be clocked far lower than low full tosses. It would probably be easier to measure how quickly it gets to the batsman, i.e. the ball's velocity in the horizontal direction. But that can be very misleading, because it isn't an accurate representation of how fast the ball is travelling. That's why they do the timing out of the hand.

 

[Richard]

Darren powell clocked 150 consistently when playing in the english domestic season
and is bowlingin the 130 in international crikcet

OK, exactly how much have you watched of Daren Powell? I assure you, he's proved more than capable of clocking in excess of 140kph (never actually seen him bowl over 150, in either domestic or international cricket, but wouldn't want to rule it out).

Any other cases?

just read the whole post ,it was in response to somebody who said that if speed gun was faulty they should have replaced it.who cares when nobody is watching it.

If it doesn't work, either get rid of it or replace it. The fact they've kept it tends to suggest it actually does work.

 

[Richard]

I don't know about that, unplayable bouncers would repeatedly be clocked far lower than low full tosses.

So?

Speed is of lesser importance than many other things when it comes to how difficult a ball is to play. A low Full-Toss (that doesn't swing) is far easier to play than a ball aimed at the ribcage, even if the reaction-time is slightly less for the Full-Toss. It doesn't matter if the more difficult ball would be clocked at a lower speed - because it would be a lower speed.

And really, unplayable short deliveries only occur on the quickest, bounciest of wickets (ie, those at the old-time WACA, and maybe at some really old-time Kensington Oval, Sabina Park or possibly Kingsmead). On almost all normal pitches, you can evade dismissal to the short delivery if you play it well.

It would probably be easier to measure how quickly it gets to the batsman, i.e. the ball's velocity in the horizontal direction. But that can be very misleading, because it isn't an accurate representation of how fast the ball is travelling. That's why they do the timing out of the hand.

Personally I'd quite like to see speed out of hand and speed at batsman on the display.

 

[Uppercut]

So?

Speed is of lesser importance than many other things when it comes to how difficult a ball is to play. A low Full-Toss (that doesn't swing) is far easier to play than a ball aimed at the ribcage, even if the reaction-time is slightly less for the Full-Toss. It doesn't matter if the more difficult ball would be clocked at a lower speed - because it would be a lower speed.

Well no, not really, horizontal velocity isn't speed. The greater the angle the ball travels at, the slower it reaches the batsman, but it might still be travelling at the same speed.

And really, unplayable short deliveries only occur on the quickest, bounciest of wickets (ie, those at the old-time WACA, and maybe at some really old-time Kensington Oval, Sabina Park or possibly Kingsmead). On almost all normal pitches, you can evade dismissal to the short delivery if you play it well.

Personally I'd quite like to see speed out of hand and speed at batsman on the display.

Agreed, unplayable bouncers don't come around a lot these days, the last i remember was Malinga to Pietersen in Sri Lanka in the winter. It was just an example.

As for the speed out of the hand and speed at batsman, it'd certainly be interesting to see. They do show it occasionally but i guess they feel only one measurement is necessary when, as you say, there are a hell of a lot of more important things to how difficult a ball is to play than its speed.

 

[Golaxi]

Shoab Akhtar

The fastest bowler in the world at the mo is very easily Shoaib Akhtar.

Regurlarly 90+ even 95+ and has to be the best bowler in the world aswell.

wish he was english!

 

[Richard]

Well no, not really, horizontal velocity isn't speed. The greater the angle the ball travels at, the slower it reaches the batsman, but it might still be travelling at the same speed.

The important thing, though, is average speed across the 18 yards. This will be affected by the trajectory, along with several other things. But it's the same whatever the reasons for it.

 

[Flem274*]

The fastest bowler in the world at the mo is very easily Shoaib Akhtar.

Regurlarly 90+ even 95+ and has to be the best bowler in the world aswell.

wish he was english!

What, so English Management can walk in and find him with a bottle of steroids down his gob?

You narrowly escaped Big Jess's toilet antics, don't go looking for more trouble.

Btw, what egotistical person would call themselves Cricket God? I'm sorry but why exactly do we need another self proclaimed God when we already have at least 33 self proclaimed Jesus's walking around? I watched a man with a beard and some crystal meth get pulled over on the Auckland motorway on a cop show a while back and apparently he's Jesus, which makes him a God too.

 

[Athlai]

Flem's been drinking.

 

[Richard]

Phlegm does aught but drink?

 

[Athlai]

Speculation would have to assume so.

 

[Flem274*]

Completely sober-not that that has any effects whatsoever on randomness levels.