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England players and selection discussion thread
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mackembhoy
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LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
So, one Test down, 5 to go this summer, how does everyone stack up?
Duckett, Root, Brook, Stokes and Smith were obviously coming into this with little to no scrutiny, quiet Test for Smith and Root, quiet with the bat but hugely encouraging with the ball for Stokes, and nice to see Duckett and Brook score quick runs
Not sure who, if anyone, makes way for Bethell, but nice to see Crawley and Pope back among the runs after a fallow period
The seamers weren’t much to write home about, Tongue probably the pick of them, not great figures, but as the ‘battering ram’ wickets perhaps that doesn’t tell the full story. He’s England’s second quickest bowler of the Bazball era—must admit I did think Carse would be a tad quicker, but there can’t be much in it, but I wonder if that means he’s the one to make way for Carse? Atkinson again looked if not bad, then certainly a shadow of the bowler who burst onto the scene in 2023/24, way down in pace again, why? Listening to Simon Hughes he seems to think it’s a run up issue
It’s the easiest thing in the world to say that it’s ’only’ Zimbabwe, and judging by their bowling, I think that’s fair to an extent for the batters, but I thought Bashir bowled really well, and would have troubled the best in the business with some of his bowling throughout the Test, and the stats suggest he bowled more accurately than he has in the past, certainly a promising outing
Duckett, Root, Brook, Stokes and Smith were obviously coming into this with little to no scrutiny, quiet Test for Smith and Root, quiet with the bat but hugely encouraging with the ball for Stokes, and nice to see Duckett and Brook score quick runs
Not sure who, if anyone, makes way for Bethell, but nice to see Crawley and Pope back among the runs after a fallow period
The seamers weren’t much to write home about, Tongue probably the pick of them, not great figures, but as the ‘battering ram’ wickets perhaps that doesn’t tell the full story. He’s England’s second quickest bowler of the Bazball era—must admit I did think Carse would be a tad quicker, but there can’t be much in it, but I wonder if that means he’s the one to make way for Carse? Atkinson again looked if not bad, then certainly a shadow of the bowler who burst onto the scene in 2023/24, way down in pace again, why? Listening to Simon Hughes he seems to think it’s a run up issue
It’s the easiest thing in the world to say that it’s ’only’ Zimbabwe, and judging by their bowling, I think that’s fair to an extent for the batters, but I thought Bashir bowled really well, and would have troubled the best in the business with some of his bowling throughout the Test, and the stats suggest he bowled more accurately than he has in the past, certainly a promising outing
I can't see Bethell coming into the side for the VC, but they could drop Pope down to keep and leave Smith out. Unlikely though. I think Carse and Tongue are playing for one place, and Cook is fighting it out with Potts or Woakes. Cook started well against ZIM but faded, and wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't start against India.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
Whoops, forgot to even mention Cook, but he doesn’t look like he’ll be much of a threat with English pitches the way they are now (Aussie pitches perhaps, he did well over the winter on tbe Lions tour), and he’s only in the team because Woakes isn’t fit, whereas I can feasibly see either Atkinson or Tongue in the team once Carse and Woakes come back (think it’ll be Atkinson)
Molehill
Cricketer Of The Year
The top 7 looks set in stone now with Bethell on standby to replace anyone not fit. Woakes surely comes in at 8 following a decent outing for Warks whilst Bashir has somehow made his safe spot for the Summer it seems (didn't see that coming, have India paid off Zim?). Atkinson surely remains as one seamer despite his pace being down, but should become susceptible to pressure if he doesn't perform. Carse/Tongue to provide the battering ram option. The squad is looking pretty strong especially with Wood to return too.
Chin Music
International 12th Man
The problem is that the county championship breaks soon for the blast. At best, Archer/Wood play games at the back end of the CC season, you would have thought. Even then, I have my concerns for both of them given the length of time away from the FC/test game and injury prone nature of the two of them.
CricAddict
International Coach
Woakes-Atkinson-Carse is some 8-10.. Rehan or Hartley could have come in for Bashir just for the 11 batter meme purpose..
Chin Music
International 12th Man
Gus Atkinson ruled out of England's ODI series v West Indies with hamstring injury - BBC Sport Perhaps this was part of the reason Atkinson was down on pace? Probably not a bad thing that he misses out on ODIs. There has been little on show from his previous performances that suggest he is suited to that form of the game.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
I wonder if he’s even fully got over the initial injury, he’s been down on pace for a while now
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
Hans, are we South Africa?
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
What is our schedule for the Australia tour? Is there much of a warm-up schedule or are we playing golf in Dubai?
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Well, given that is your #1 poaching market...
I wouldn't have any bowlers playing all formats.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Vice-Captain
Is it any wonder our best white ball bowler is a spinner who hasn't played red ball cricket for years?
FBU
International Debutant
Potts (9) 10 wickets at 29.30 econ 5.86
Mahmood (13) 17 wickets at 32.82 econ 5.28
Overton (5) 4 wickets at 37.50 econ 6.25
Carse (21) 24 wickets at 39.45 econ 6.50
Atkinson (11) 13 wickets at 40.53 econ 6.69
Wood L (2) 0 wickets econ 5.90
Not much experience there. Some high averages but those players can also bat
stats.espncricinfo.com
Mahmood (13) 17 wickets at 32.82 econ 5.28
Overton (5) 4 wickets at 37.50 econ 6.25
Carse (21) 24 wickets at 39.45 econ 6.50
Atkinson (11) 13 wickets at 40.53 econ 6.69
Wood L (2) 0 wickets econ 5.90
Not much experience there. Some high averages but those players can also bat