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ECB presents 100-ball domestic game for men and women

54321

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
You know what innovation cricket really needs: bring back Double Wicket games.

I would love to see Single Wicket and Double Wicket games brought back, and it could possibly work in the modern era. The rules for each game are quite interesting too, stops it from being a simple 'less players on a big field' kind of game. Also it could be cricket's version of footy's 5/6-a-side games for communities, and that's one thing that cricket would need. There is the 'Last Man Standing' format that seems to be quite popular among some locals.

This new proposal is too simple for any high level competition, but after thinking about it, the simplicity could be a good thing for local communities. Set up some GOALS-like arenas and use this format for local tournaments.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
If ECB are going to really get "on-trend" their next idea should be Cricket: Battle Royale. That'll get the kids playing.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
I would love to see Single Wicket and Double Wicket games brought back, and it could possibly work in the modern era. The rules for each game are quite interesting too, stops it from being a simple 'less players on a big field' kind of game. Also it could be cricket's version of footy's 5/6-a-side games for communities, and that's one thing that cricket would need. There is the 'Last Man Standing' format that seems to be quite popular among some locals.

This new proposal is too simple for any high level competition, but after thinking about it, the simplicity could be a good thing for local communities. Set up some GOALS-like arenas and use this format for local tournaments.
Last Man Standing is fairly popular I would say
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Of all the professional sports out there, cricket is probably one of the few where, in theory, a woman should be able to compete at the highest level with men. It's not a sport based on strength or size or speed, all you really need is some decent skills, reflexes and hand-eye coordination. It's very easy to imagine a woman who's a good enough spin/medium pace bowler to bowl against the best male batsmen, while being sufficiently competent at fielding and probably batting down at 10/11...like that's a very feasible goal to aim for. And then you already have Sarah Taylor - an elite level wicketkeeper who is competent enough with the bat to not be an absolute tailender. She's played grade cricket in Australia, and you think with enough training she could be a competent enough wicketkeeper for the men's international cricket.

But I could be wrong. It will be interesting to watch in the next couple of decades if any women emerge who are good enough to prove this theory.
The fastest delivery by a woman is 125kmh. It's just not going to happen
 

cnerd123

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The fastest delivery by a woman is 125kmh. It's just not going to happen
Praveen Kumar dominated in a Test Series in England bowling in that speed range. Most spinners bowl slower than 125 kmph too.

Not saying I definitely think it will happen, it most likely never will, just that theoretically it should be possible.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Praveen Kumar dominated in a Test Series in England bowling in that speed range. Most spinners bowl slower than 125 kmph too.

Not saying I definitely think it will happen, it most likely never will, just that theoretically it should be possible.
I doubt we'll ever be at the stage during our lifetime that we'll be asking how a particular female player should be in the mens team. The skill standard is average at best. Most wouldn't make First Grade in Sydney.

Nevertheless, it has its place. Posters dismissing that girls don't want to see girls play etc don't have a proper grip on reality.
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
Of all the professional sports out there, cricket is probably one of the few where, in theory, a woman should be able to compete at the highest level with men. It's not a sport based on strength or size or speed, all you really need is some decent skills, reflexes and hand-eye coordination. It's very easy to imagine a woman who's a good enough spin/medium pace bowler to bowl against the best male batsmen, while being sufficiently competent at fielding and probably batting down at 10/11...like that's a very feasible goal to aim for. And then you already have Sarah Taylor - an elite level wicketkeeper who is competent enough with the bat to not be an absolute tailender. She's played grade cricket in Australia, and you think with enough training she could be a competent enough wicketkeeper for the men's international cricket.

But I could be wrong. It will be interesting to watch in the next couple of decades if any women emerge who are good enough to prove this theory.
While strength and size and speed are more critical to some other sports, they are certainly an asset in cricket as well. Most batsmen would much rather face a 70 mph bowler than a 90 mph bowler, and the latter is much more likely to be selected for an international side. The proportion of sixes per ball is much higher in mens cricket than womens, probably because of the relative strength of the batsmen.

Also, in the vast majority of competitive activities that require no physical strength but where success is measured purely objectively and not subjectively, the leading practitioners are almost exclusively male. For example:

Chess - The leading women's chess player, Hou Yifan, has been described as "leaps and bounds" ahead of her competitors, but her FIDE rating is lower than the 100th best male player in the world.
Darts - Anastasia Dobromyslova, three times womens world champion, spent three years attempting to compete on the main tour and struggled to break into the top 100 of the world rankings.
Mathematics - In the International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO), only two of the 50 most successful competitors of all time are female. The IMO is the mathematics field most important world event, widely described as the "most prestigious mathematical competitions in the world" and vaguely equal to the Olympics, which is why it's called an Olympiad.
Snooker - Reanne Evans, by far the best womens player ever, won the Ladies World Snooker Championship a record ten successive times between 2005 and 2014 and at one point won 61 consecutive women's matches. She was awarded a wild card on the professional main tour for the 2010–11 season, and failed to win any matches throughout the entire season, suffering 18 consecutive defeats.
Quizzing - In the 15 year history of the World Quizzing Championship, only one woman, Dorjana Širola, has ever finished in the top 10, and she has never been in the top 5.
World richest people - Of the worlds 50 richest people, only five are women, and all of these inherited their wealth.
 
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Spikey

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this type of terrible discussion is why I don't discuss woman's cricket on here while watching it btw
 

TheJediBrah

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While strength and size and speed are more critical to some other sports, they are certainly an asset cricket as well. Most batsmen would much rather face a 70 mph bowler than a 90 mph bowler, and the latter is much more likely to be selected for an international side. The proportion of sixes per ball is much higher in mens cricket than womens, probably because of the relative strength of the batsmen.

Also, in the vast majority of competitive activities that require no physical strength but where success is measured purely objectively and not subjectively, the leading practitioners are almost exclusively male. For example:

Chess - The leading women's chess player, Hou Yifan, has been described as "leaps and bounds" ahead of her competitors, but her FIDE rating is lower than the 100th best male player in the world.
Darts - Anastasia Dobromyslova, three times womens world champion, spent three years attempting to compete on the main tour and struggled to break into the top 100 of the world rankings.
Mathematics - In the International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO), only two of the 50 most successful competitors of all time are female. The IMO is the mathematics field most important world event, widely described as the "most prestigious mathematical competitions in the world" and vaguely equal to the Olympics, which is why it's called an Olympiad.
Snooker - Reanne Evans, by far the best womens player ever, won the Ladies World Snooker Championship a record ten successive times between 2005 and 2014 and at one point won 61 consecutive women's matches. She was awarded a wild card on the professional main tour for the 2010–11 season, and failed to win any matches throughout the entire season, suffering 18 consecutive defeats.
Quizzing - In the 15 year history of the World Quizzing Championship, only one woman, Dorjana Širola, has ever finished in the top 10, and she has never been in the top 5.
World richest people - Of the worlds 50 richest people, only five are women, and all of these inherited their wealth.
Men are better than women at sports, we get it, it's nothing new

Also, quizzing? Seriously?
 

Borges

International Regular
Since the idea seems to be to poularise the game, it may have been worthwhile to consider placing this new competition on free to air TV.
Encourage kids to start watching cricket of some form instead of football.
 

NotMcKenzie

International Debutant
Or they could just place the current formats on free to air instead, and get more exposure that way.

But that concept seems to have eluded the E.C.B. for some time now
 

Larwood's_boots

U19 Debutant
NOTHING WILL GET KIDS INTO CRICKET MORE THAN ENGLAND WINNING TEST MATCHES ON BBC1- it's boring and it's been said too many time but it's SO ****ING OBVIOUS.

Invest in the counties, have a great red ball team an then stick them on free to air TV. You're job is to safeguard English cricket, just to just make as much money while turning it into a niche activity for public schoolboys.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
Men are better than women at sports, we get it, it's nothing new

Also, quizzing? Seriously?
I think his point was that men tend to dominate in areas even where strength and speed are not a major factor, I think there were basically 2 theories about it -

1. Selection Bias - Less women actually do any of these things as per society defined rules, so there's less chances of the top women being anywhere near the top men because of the much smaller pool.
2. Man tend to have a flatter curve for most abilities compared to women, as in - there are more men who are completely hopeless and more men who are utterly brilliant compared to women who tend to fall more towards the middle.

That's purely about the skill based stuff though, no women's getting anywhere near the top male sportsman in a 100 meter race in our lifetimes .
 

the big bambino

International Captain
Women’s tennis, swimming, running even rugby is a much higher standard than women’s cricket but they’re not getting anywhere near parity either. There’s also a reason why women make up a smaller pool of achievers than men in sport: they aren’t as good at it and like any one else making a choice on their future will gravitate towards those things they are better at.
 

Midwinter

State Captain
Isn't this proposal about forcing an 8 team franchise based competition like the Big Bash and IPL, independent of the Counties, onto the english scene ?

The 100 ball scenario is just a marketing ploy.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
Isn't this proposal about forcing an 8 team franchise based competition like the Big Bash and IPL, independent of the Counties, onto the english scene ?

The 100 ball scenario is just a marketing ploy.
When the counties agreed to the franchise the understanding was it would be a twenty20 similar to the Bash. They basically gave up their power over English cricket for that.

Now this dog's dinner is what is produced!
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket...mpetition-will-100-balls-per-innings-not-t20/

How does that work?

Also, they were seriously considering scrapping the LBW law!
There is no way that the matches should be given list A status. If T20s aren't then this joke shouldn't. It'd be an absolute mockery of the game's statistics.

I just don't see how they could have come to the conclusion that overs are too complicated to understand. It's 'bowl twenty groups of six balls, ten from each end'. That's all. Almost everyone over the age of ten grasps this in Australia, but that's what having cricket on FTA TV gets you (not that CA release this).
 

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