You defy belief!Richard said:
A lucky catch counts as a not-out in the first-chance average.
Oh really?Richard said:Rest assured it's far more than that.
Tripe. All depends on the strength of the grip.Richard said:The inside-edge:drag-on ratio remains constant, no matter how good or bad the technique or the number of runs scored per inside-edge.
Yeah, that toohalsey said:True Neil, but technique also matters.
Then most batsmen's tallies would be cut far more significantly than they usually are by first-chance averages.Neil Pickup said:And also, edged runs shouldn't count, runs made off pies don't count...
And they follow exactly the same principles.Richard said:Then most batsmen's tallies would be cut far more significantly than they usually are by first-chance averages.
Yes, but if everyone averaged 20 or so you wouldn't have much difference.Neil Pickup said:And they follow exactly the same principles.
Batsmen don't deserve credit for edging runs - but who is going to be bothered to keep a tally of "edged runs" and "intentional runs"?Neil Pickup said:But why do batsmen deserve credit for edging runs?
Also, first chance averages may be unfair as some players face different bowlers.
Hence, I suggest that all batsmen and bowlers have separate averages kept against all the bowlers they face.
Who is bothered to keep a tally of "first chances" since a chance is subjective and cannot be fairly quantified? :PRichard said:Batsmen don't deserve credit for edging runs - but who is going to be bothered to keep a tally of "edged runs" and "intentional runs"?
disagree vehemently. so giles blocks out 100 balls or whatever it was on a sloooow turning pitch & he`s suddenly a #8? keep it in perspectivemarc71178 said:I would defintitely not call Giles a tail ender, he is definitely good enough to bat 8 in Tests.