Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Gooch, Barrington, and Tendulkar are all useful part-timers.
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Diminishing Draft
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Suggesting that your team has 8 ATG's is a stretch
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
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Stewie Dempster
ataraxia
International Coach
hmm, you guys are quick.
Err, Matt Prior I guess
1) Virender Sehwag /
2) Eddie Barlow / o
3) Lindsay Hassett* /
4) Martin Crowe /
5) Vijay Hazare /
6) Mohammad Yousuf /
7) Jock Cameron + /
8) Clarrie Grimmett o
9) Andy Roberts o
10) Allan Donald o
11) Glenn McGrath o
Err, Matt Prior I guess
1) Virender Sehwag /
2) Eddie Barlow / o
3) Lindsay Hassett* /
4) Martin Crowe /
5) Vijay Hazare /
6) Mohammad Yousuf /
7) Jock Cameron + /
8) Clarrie Grimmett o
9) Andy Roberts o
10) Allan Donald o
11) Glenn McGrath o
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
*WG Grace - England's best ever cricketer (perhaps 3rd best of all time behind Bradman and Sobers).
*Simpson - perhaps Australia's greatest opener, very handy legspinner, and ATG slip.
*Williamson - averages 61.8 for the last 10 years (not far behind Smith's 63).
* De Villiers - had the most remarkable range of the modern era. Averaged 57.4 as keeper.
*Shakib - one of the 2 best spin bowling allrounders of all time and did it at the same time unlike Faulkner. 2nd best allrounder behind Kallis of the 21st century.
*Wasim - best leftarmer of all time.
*Laker - 2nd best offie of all time behind Murali. His 19 wickets seems likely to stand for all time.
*Lillee - had the world record for test wickets despite injury and WSC reducing appearances. Best bowler of the 1970s.
Teuton
International Captain
Don't you need a keeper with less runs than Barlow?
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Still some good options around.
Williamson isn't an ATG yet
Trumper, Hayden and Morris are all arguably better than Simpson, not to mention Lawry, Ponsford and Jackson who are all very close
Davidson is better than Akram
Grace, De Villiers, Al Hasan, Akram, Laker and Lillee are probably the only ATG's
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Simpson averaged 55.5 as an opener.
Smith, Sangakkara, Sobers, and Kallis are the only players in history with more runs and a higher average than Williamson.
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Lol no
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
You beat me to it.
shortpitched713
International Captain
The All Conditions All-Rounders
01. Colin McDonald
02. Herbert Sutcliffe
03. Peter May *
04. Joe Root
05. Andy Flower +
06. Tony Greig (6)
07. Jack Gregory (5)
08. Shaun Pollock (2)
09. Ravindra Jadeja (4)
10. Vernon Philander (1)
11. Bill Johnston (3)
Exactly the kind of team I was looking to create. Has numbers in both batting and bowling, and quality performers on both ends as well.
Batting strength is headed by Sutcliffe, Root and May at the core scoring a bulk of runs. Colin McDonald picked as an opener specifically for his ability in tough conditions, batting courageously and effectively against the pace and aggression of Hall, and doing exceptionally well on sticky wickets against Laker. But the big draw of the batting lineup is its depth. One of the few ATG wicket-keeper batsman, and true all-rounders down to 9, and even bats down to 10 with Philander. Shout outs to @honestbharani .
The bowling attack has a plan as well. Basically the idea is to turn the criticism of "conditions dependence" on its head. Teams like India or South Africa struggled without a plan B for bowling in SENA or subcontinental conditions respectively, and so such a criticism can have merit. But what if your plan B, is the plan A of the alternative condition? This was the idea in choosing both Philander and Jadeja together, two of the best ever ( in Philander's case maybe GOAT? ) at abusing seam friendly and spin friendly conditions respectively. You've got Pollock and Johnston rounding out the frontline bowlers, and more all-rounders giving 6ish very useful bowling options ( 2 of them in Johnston and Greig able to provide either pace or spin depending on the need ).
Oh yeah Jadeja's also good at fielding or something, so if we want to meme we can say that is the answer and I selected him just for that.
Anyway, very happy with how it all turned out, and having a good opportunity to research and get into digging into cricket history, so thanks for that guys, and all of the picks that kept me on my toes, and good convo throughout!
01. Colin McDonald
02. Herbert Sutcliffe
03. Peter May *
04. Joe Root
05. Andy Flower +
06. Tony Greig (6)
07. Jack Gregory (5)
08. Shaun Pollock (2)
09. Ravindra Jadeja (4)
10. Vernon Philander (1)
11. Bill Johnston (3)
Exactly the kind of team I was looking to create. Has numbers in both batting and bowling, and quality performers on both ends as well.
Batting strength is headed by Sutcliffe, Root and May at the core scoring a bulk of runs. Colin McDonald picked as an opener specifically for his ability in tough conditions, batting courageously and effectively against the pace and aggression of Hall, and doing exceptionally well on sticky wickets against Laker. But the big draw of the batting lineup is its depth. One of the few ATG wicket-keeper batsman, and true all-rounders down to 9, and even bats down to 10 with Philander. Shout outs to @honestbharani .
The bowling attack has a plan as well. Basically the idea is to turn the criticism of "conditions dependence" on its head. Teams like India or South Africa struggled without a plan B for bowling in SENA or subcontinental conditions respectively, and so such a criticism can have merit. But what if your plan B, is the plan A of the alternative condition? This was the idea in choosing both Philander and Jadeja together, two of the best ever ( in Philander's case maybe GOAT? ) at abusing seam friendly and spin friendly conditions respectively. You've got Pollock and Johnston rounding out the frontline bowlers, and more all-rounders giving 6ish very useful bowling options ( 2 of them in Johnston and Greig able to provide either pace or spin depending on the need ).
Oh yeah Jadeja's also good at fielding or something, so if we want to meme we can say that is the answer and I selected him just for that.
Anyway, very happy with how it all turned out, and having a good opportunity to research and get into digging into cricket history, so thanks for that guys, and all of the picks that kept me on my toes, and good convo throughout!
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Voting is going to ridiculously hard for this.
Would 4 groups of 4 or 2 groups of 8 with a final of 8 be best?
Multiple votes.
Also what works best for cricfan has to be a priority.
Would 4 groups of 4 or 2 groups of 8 with a final of 8 be best?
Multiple votes.
Also what works best for cricfan has to be a priority.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
@CricAddict with 16 teams, I suggest a knock out tournament to choose the winner, like latter stages of FIFA World Cup
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Yes, but the 2nd best team could be knocked out in the 1st round.