Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Everyone else's are just miniature adjustments - these all happening because winning at home to Sri Lanka is now worth slightly more than it was before.
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CW Test Rankings - Updated Jan 2012
- Thread starter Neil Pickup
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biased indian
International Coach
but they all played weeker SL side rite,,,,why should they gain for what SL have achived since that series ????Neil Pickup said:
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Because Sri Lanka aren't as weak as everyone thought?biased indian said:
Besides, it's so small it really doesn't matter much.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
So what are they at now?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Could use an update. Its been a busy year in international cricket.
AussieDominance
Banned
Will be interesting to see these new ones can't wait!
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I gave it a try based on Neil's formula on page three (took way too long):
Home Table
Away Table
* If the Ashes had been 3-1 in favor of Australia, England would have been #3 on the away table, and at #2 or #3 place overall. At 2-1, they would have been the clear #2 team. 5-0 just killed them.
** Only due to 1-1 in Australia compared to 5-0 for England. England clearly superior almost everywhere else, but if England had gone 1-1 or 2-2, England would just dominate the away charts and be way ahead of everyone bar Australia. The 1-1 vs. SL and 2-0 in Pakistan didn't help either.
Also, please note that I did not give the overall table as I do not know how much Neil weighs away vs. home. I can provide that once I get more data.
Home Table
- Australia (1756)
- SA (1349)
- India (1270)
- Eng (1261)
- Pak (1213)
- SL (1204)
- NZ (980)
- WI (781)
- Zim (111)
- Ban (27)
Away Table
- Australia (1304)
- Pakistan (806)
- India (711) **
- Eng (659) *
- SA (645)
- SL (634)
- NZ (549)
- WI (195)
- Zim (184)
- Ban (58)
* If the Ashes had been 3-1 in favor of Australia, England would have been #3 on the away table, and at #2 or #3 place overall. At 2-1, they would have been the clear #2 team. 5-0 just killed them.
** Only due to 1-1 in Australia compared to 5-0 for England. England clearly superior almost everywhere else, but if England had gone 1-1 or 2-2, England would just dominate the away charts and be way ahead of everyone bar Australia. The 1-1 vs. SL and 2-0 in Pakistan didn't help either.
Also, please note that I did not give the overall table as I do not know how much Neil weighs away vs. home. I can provide that once I get more data.
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Thank you Neil for the spreadsheet:
These are the overall rankings:
Big Winners:
Australia: Unstoppable. Their 5-0 win over England means Australia have a totally ridiculous rating at home. Which means, winning in Australia is worth a LOT of points...and that leads to
India: Improved their previous record in SA, improved their record in WI, and got free points for the series draw in Aus because winning there is now worth even more than it was before.
SL: Win in England and NZ, huge ones that the rating system did not expect.
Big Losers:
South Africa: Big losses to Australia didn't hurt that much, but the losses away from home hurt. Still strong at home though, and a win over Pak should bring them back.
Pakistan: Win over Eng helped but then they gave it away and more with 3-0 in England.
I am going to speak to Neil to make sure I didn't make any mistakes though, so until he approves it this is still 'tentative'.
These are the overall rankings:
- Australia 1543 (+30)
- England 1028 (-2)
- India 953 (+44)
- South Africa 891 (-62)
- Pakistan 856 (-74)
- Sri Lanka 814 (+57)
- New Zealand 800 (-14)
- WI 410 (-49)
- Zim 207 (-7)
- Bang (-3)
Big Winners:
Australia: Unstoppable. Their 5-0 win over England means Australia have a totally ridiculous rating at home. Which means, winning in Australia is worth a LOT of points...and that leads to
India: Improved their previous record in SA, improved their record in WI, and got free points for the series draw in Aus because winning there is now worth even more than it was before.
SL: Win in England and NZ, huge ones that the rating system did not expect.
Big Losers:
South Africa: Big losses to Australia didn't hurt that much, but the losses away from home hurt. Still strong at home though, and a win over Pak should bring them back.
Pakistan: Win over Eng helped but then they gave it away and more with 3-0 in England.
I am going to speak to Neil to make sure I didn't make any mistakes though, so until he approves it this is still 'tentative'.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Checked with Neil, and these in fact look accurate.
Basically this proves that:
The India in England and India in Australia are huge series that (IMO) will bring India back down a reasonable #5 or so overall.
Basically this proves that:
- Australia
- Rest of the ****e that can barely win overseas
The India in England and India in Australia are huge series that (IMO) will bring India back down a reasonable #5 or so overall.
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AussieDominance
Banned
Neil has groomed you 
Lighten the load for him take over young SS
Lighten the load for him take over young SS
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
New Rankings after the Pakistan/SA series:
Why did SA go down despite winning? The same reason they went down last series: previously they had blown out India and Pakistan at home. Now both of them won a test in SA, and SA actually worsened their record against both.
India is very high due to 1-1 in Aus (no one else comes close) and 1-1 in England. They will likely drop after they tour England and Australia next year.
- Australia 1543
- England 1031
- India 955
- Pakistan 909
- South Africa 858
- Sri Lanka 816
- New Zealand 800
- WI 412
- Zim 207
- Bang 53
Why did SA go down despite winning? The same reason they went down last series: previously they had blown out India and Pakistan at home. Now both of them won a test in SA, and SA actually worsened their record against both.
India is very high due to 1-1 in Aus (no one else comes close) and 1-1 in England. They will likely drop after they tour England and Australia next year.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Well, so far it didn't go as predicted with India winning in England when I expected them to lose.
I still expect them to go down after the Aussie series (they were 1-1 last time, don't see matching this time).
Overall Table
With the exception of Australia and Windies (and Ban), everyone is pretty close. India move up in points but England still have a comfortable lead in points. With the win in England (2nd best team in the world) and a draw in Australia (the best team in the world), as well as a win in WI and an improvement of their record in SA (they actually won one), India are now the second best away team in the world. No other team matches that.
A big reason was that England just got annihilated by the best team in the world, while India drew with them the last time. Obviously, things could (and IMO will be) different after the Ind-Aus series later this year, but for now they are comfortably the second best away team. Oddly enough, outside the top three teams (Aus way ahead, then India then England), every other team sucks big time away from home.
I still expect them to go down after the Aussie series (they were 1-1 last time, don't see matching this time).
Overall Table
- Australia (1547)
- England (1017)
- India (981.4)
- Pak (913.36)
- RSA (861.11)
- NZ (837)
- SRL (819.67)
- WIN (418.23)
- Ban (81)
With the exception of Australia and Windies (and Ban), everyone is pretty close. India move up in points but England still have a comfortable lead in points. With the win in England (2nd best team in the world) and a draw in Australia (the best team in the world), as well as a win in WI and an improvement of their record in SA (they actually won one), India are now the second best away team in the world. No other team matches that.
A big reason was that England just got annihilated by the best team in the world, while India drew with them the last time. Obviously, things could (and IMO will be) different after the Ind-Aus series later this year, but for now they are comfortably the second best away team. Oddly enough, outside the top three teams (Aus way ahead, then India then England), every other team sucks big time away from home.
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Jungle Jumbo
International Vice-Captain
Are New Zealand not there because they haven't played enough cricket?
shortpitched713
International Captain
Haha, not Test class imo.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
Thus making the current team the best tourists from India since the early 70s?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Well, I think that was true even before this year. Especially since from 1986-2000, India had not even won a single Test outside the subcontinent, let alone a series.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Yea, pretty much. Added them now though.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Sri Lanka lower than what I thought they would be.