Brett Lee's final Test wicket tally

[Streetwise]

Bit unlucky in his career, had he played for any other team he would have been their first pick bowler. A weak bowling team like England or India could have benifitted from a bowler like Lee but unfortunately for Lee he had too many other good bowlers to fight for positions with. He is one of the best true fast bowlers from the 00"s.

 

[Top_Cat]

Bit unlucky in his career, had he played for any other team he would have been their first pick bowler. A weak bowling team like England or India could have benifitted from a bowler like Lee but unfortunately for Lee he had too many other good bowlers to fight for positions with. He is one of the best true fast bowlers from the 00"s.

Haha, what? Was carried from '01-'05 despite bowling pap for much of the period. The success of the better bowlers, if anything, masked his poor form because the side was winning. Any of Kasper/Bichel/Clark/Noffke/Bracken had cases to be picked over Lee at various times in that period. Was a member of the platinum selection club for sure.

The worst bowler to get past 300 Test wickets for mine.

 

[Craig]

I would find it very hard to believe that Lee wouldn't of been one of the first bowlers on the team sheet if he played for New Zealand, provided he didn't catch the injury curse. I think that is what Streetwise was getting at.

I mean:

Bond
Lee
Martin

Plus you would of had O'Brien, Oram, Mills, and Tuffey to throw into the mix. Then Vettori being an auto selection (whether TH likes it or not), I have seen worse bowling line ups. I'm also without doubt he would of got an England cap.

 

[Streetwise]

I would find it very hard to believe that Lee wouldn't of been one of the first bowlers on the team sheet if he played for New Zealand, provided he didn't catch the injury curse. I think that is what Streetwise was getting at.

I mean:

Bond
Lee
Martin

Plus you would of had O'Brien, Oram, Mills, and Tuffey to throw into the mix. Then Vettori being an auto selection (whether TH likes it or not), I have seen worse bowling line ups. I'm also without doubt he would of got an England cap.

Not just NZ, this would apply to Eng, Ind, SL, WI, Pak and SA.

 

[Streetwise]

Five players with 300 wickets that are not as good as Lee.

Vass
Willis
Vettori
Harbijan
Ntini

 

[Craig]

Comparing a spinner to a fast bowler is like comparing apple and oranges, no?

 

[Streetwise]

Comparing a spinner to a fast bowler is like comparing apple and oranges, no?

Not really, I would say Warne was a better bowler than Johnson.

 

[G.I.Joe]

If you're a quick averaging pretty close to a spinner, its pretty obvious you're worse off than him.

 

[wfdu_ben91]

His last wicket was clean bowled - Too bad it was called a no ball.

 

[jeevan]

Not just NZ, this would apply to Eng, Ind, SL, WI, Pak and SA.

Don't know how he was riding the rest of the time, but the most recent time India toured - he was definitely pulling the train very nicely. Certainly welcome in India even if we didn't suck so bad at producing his type of bowler.
Actually, welcome in India even if he had been a complete doofus at bowling.

 

[Matt79]

If he regains fitness he's still a gun ODI bowler.

So is Dennis Lillee, if he can regain his fitness. Ain't likely tho is it?

 

[Matt79]

Not taking away from the bloke. I'll write a proper post on him when a official announcement thread pops up. I just take issue with the idea he'll figure
in the ODI team again.

 

[Slifer]

Five players with 300 wickets that are not as good as Lee.

Vass
Willis
Vettori
Harbijan
Ntini

i hope u dont mean Bob Willis??

 

[Uppercut]

Five players with 300 wickets that are not as good as Lee.

Vass
Willis
Vettori
Harbijan
Ntini

You're having a merry jest with regards to Willis but Lee was definitely better than Vettori. The others are close.

 

[pasag]

It's a sad way for him to go out, he was so fit throughout his career that he deserved for this not to happen to him and it would have been nice or him to have a proper goodbye. I'll miss him.

 

[Nate]

Love Binga. No idea what Matt is talking about ftr, can still see him playing at least 20/20s for a bit yet.

 

[Spikey]

I just take issue with the idea he'll figure
in the ODI team again.

I'd rather Lee coming in with the new ball at next year's WC than MJ or Siddle....

 

[Richard]

Five players with 300 wickets that are not as good as Lee.

Vass
Willis
Vettori
Harbijan
Ntini

You know, I did wonder whether you actually believe the Australian>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anything-else crap you type, but the notion that Lee was a better Test bowler than Bob Willis pretty much confirms all you're trying to do is deliberately post inflammatory claptrap.

The notion that Lee was better than Ntini, BTW, isn't completely stupid, just fairly so. The idea that he was better than Vaas is nonsensical.

 

[Richard]

His limitations lay more with his intellect ("hey, one more bouncer couldn't hurt!") than with his skill with the ball. He had almost everything - express pace, decent seam movement, reverse swing, just enough outswing, inswing, cutters, a slower ball and a deadly yorker and bouncer when he used them properly.

From what I've always understood, at least some of that had to do with mishandling from that supposedly oh so great captain Stephen Waugh. Most who watched him closely observed him to be a partially flawed tactician and his advice to Lee to keep bowling poorly rather than trying to bowl well certainly seem to have had some impact.

Of course that isn't to entirely excuse Lee - a bowler has his own mind and if he realises his captain's advice is hindering him he can tell him "sorry mate, I'm the bowler, I'll decide how I bowl". But it's a decent question what might've happened had Lee played under a better captain like Mark Taylor.

 

[marc71178]

five players with 300 wickets that are not australian.

Vass
willis
vettori
harbijan
ntini

awta