Shri
Mr. Glass
SOunds painful.
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Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"
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StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
But this is the whole point... this is not even about the tour here in SA, this has been going for awhile (not the ball-tampering, as such) in the Aus cricket team, continous off the field stuff and that was all fine while they were winning... but the minute they looked to be losing in a tough controversial series, everything goes to **** and CA reacts.
This has been talked about ad nauseam though. Punishment does not fit the crime, and CA, management, and Lehmann are getting away with it now.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
200D chess from the middle of a blackhole...
Selectors at any level dont have to pick them and CA wont renew their contracts so .....
cnerd123
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This feels like having a really obnoxious, annoying, bully of a kid on your class who you really hate, and then he gets in trouble and the teacher calls his parents and it's hilarious and we're all celebrating, then his dad comes to the school to pick him up and you realise he's an abusive drunk and this kid comes from an awful home and his parents beat him and you see tears in his eyes as he leaves and your stomach sinks and suddenly the whole thing isn't funny anymore
**** you Cricket Australia
SeamUp
International Coach
In a round about way my thoughts on Maxwell have gone up during this whole event. Not sure why.
I don't understand how CA could ban Smith from the game for as much as a year, but from the captaincy for only two. It's not like he (or anyone else) did anything so bad, and he shouldn't pay such a price as a player. The incident in its entirety was bad enough to ban a captain for life though- a captain should be beholden to the outrage of the fans because the institution of captaincy is taken as a proxy for the nation.
Is this more evidence of CAs scapegoating? Putting undue blame on him as a player and avoiding casting doubt on the institution of captaincy?
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think they, or at least Smith, would be crazy not to appeal but this whole thing's been so crazy that more craziness would be unsurprising now.
Maybe I'm the crazy one for thinking that there's a chance that somebody will do something that is within a country mile of being rational.
I was listening to former test player Gavin Robertson on the radio this afternoon
Robbo and I go way back to kids cricket, through the grades, etc and the guy is as honest as the day is long
According to his sources, everything that was rumored this week about Warner and the team is true e.g. gone completely off reservation, team wanted him out of the hotel, etc
Seems like Smith was too weak to control him and is taking a fall as it happened on his watch
Such a shame
Robbo and I go way back to kids cricket, through the grades, etc and the guy is as honest as the day is long
According to his sources, everything that was rumored this week about Warner and the team is true e.g. gone completely off reservation, team wanted him out of the hotel, etc
Seems like Smith was too weak to control him and is taking a fall as it happened on his watch
Such a shame
Spark
Global Moderator
Oh I agree with you on merit. I just don't think they actually will.
digiosmosis
Cricket Spectator
George Bailey has better record as captain in ODIs as compared to Steven Smith. Also, he just led Tasmania to the final of Sheffield Shield 2017-18.
Spark
Global Moderator
Wait, you mean that someone made them do those pressers?
Gnske
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's a pity, I always suspected Smith was never that assertive. But he never had a chance trying to control a polar opposite like Warner with his personality.
And I thought making an enemy of Brett Geeves would be the real unforgivable crime in his career.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
I can't see anything but Warners career being over at international level.... maybe play FC, and become a T20 player. Or just outright retire. Why take the punishment if you just going to walk away.
Mate, go onto social media where it's being discussedI thought Australian cricketers were dicks. Geez your media and casual fans are so much worse.
Poor Steve
People that have no interest in the game want them strung up
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, hence my last sentence. Why am I thinking that anyone would do anything sensible when the opposite has happened at every turn?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah would've been a generic "address the fans" stipulation. That's not to say they wouldn't have done it if they weren't forced, and they didn't have to be so candid either, but I heard it was part of the punishment too.